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Old 11-26-2011, 08:56 AM
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Also--how is ALPA going to pay for the DFR award to TWA pilots? Assessments?
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat
Knew a guy (we'll call him Bob) who made some bad choices and got kicked out of the AF after a domestic assault plea. Bob got hired at Comair, but he'll never be hired at the mainline--and knows it. He would like nothing better than to be able to fly 777s, and would gladly do so for $120/hr.

The way I understand it, ALPA is obligated to support Bob's desire to fly 777s for $120/hr every bit as much as it supports my desire to fly 777s for $350/hr.

To make matters worse, I am required to subsidize Bob as he tries to undercut me. My dues go to ALPA, who in turn, route the money away from my best interests, and over to support Bob's agenda.

Why do we continue to be represented by an agent with such a blatant conflict of interest?

The answer to that: close to 4100 cards and growing steadily.
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat
Also--how is ALPA going to pay for the DFR award to TWA pilots? Assessments?
They won't pay. They will default as an assessment will never fly. That self inflicted wound will be their last as it will prove to be fatal.
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat
Also--how is ALPA going to pay for the DFR award to TWA pilots? Assessments?
There hasn't been a damages award, but you know that.
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:43 AM
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The answer to that: close to 4100 cards and growing steadily.
Many of those cards have expired...I wish DPA would be honest (aka transparent) with all of us and let us know how many ACTIVE cards are on file.
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Old 11-26-2011, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
There hasn't been a damages award, but you know that.
You are correct sailing. (edit: slowplay. Sorry, you and sailing seem one and the same). No damages awared yet.

However, with TWA pilots and their lawyers asking for 1.4 billion dollar$, several legal experts are predicting an eventual award of several hundred million dollar$.

That is after they examine the award on a pilot by pilot basis to determine the extent of ALPA's negligence to DFR for each individual pilot.

Facts:

Yes, this will take time.

No, insurance will not cover all of that for several reasons

A. It was premeditated and willfull negligence.

B. Practically no one is covered for that amount of money and it is unlikely that ALPA, that has lost cases like this before, was covered for that much. Who would underwrite them on their previous record??

Finally, there are serious allegations involving the legal misconduct of ALPA lawyer(s) that where involved in this case that could possibly further prejudice the award amount in this case.


In a brief recap, not good. Guess who will be asked to help out with this monetarily??
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Old 11-26-2011, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Many of those cards have expired...I wish DPA would be honest (aka transparent) with all of us and let us know how many ACTIVE cards are on file.
Is that your defense of the issue in question? Really? Give me a break.

I asked why ALPA redistributes my money to those who would undercut me, and why I should be OK with that conflict of interest. Why should I be OK with any portion of our dues money leaving the DAL pilot group--to go towards those who would destroy my career?

I didn't ask how many DPA cards have expired.

Do you have an answer to the question...or just another red herring?
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Old 11-26-2011, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
There is an phrase in the south that I really like. It goes like this: "Sir, I'd like the opportunity to earn your business..."
Uh, that ball bounces both ways. Here are the guys I've flown with/seen that have been mostly prominently sporting DPA stickers and lanyards:

...a long-time ALPA non-member; he has always been a non-member in good times and bad; methinks he is just trying to skip out on a large payment of past dues

...a fat, slovenly dude in the concourse walking with hat in hand, jacket unbuttoned, and clip-on tie clipped to his epaulet! Nice professionalism there.

...a fat dude who regaled me with the most disgusting jokes and of his fondness for appalling porn that I have ever had to contemplate in my life. Don't get me wrong: I like "underboob" as much as anyone, and I've told and enjoyed listening to my share of racy jokes. But "racy" is to this guys' fetishes as a kid's homemade go-kart is to an Indy car.

I am sure there are a lot of great DPA guys out there who truly believe that alternate representation is in our collective best interests, and can state their positions eloquently (without insults) and are the kind of guys I would be happy to drink some brews with. Unfortunately, I haven't met them yet, and those I have met are they themselves the strongest arguments against the DPA.
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Old 11-26-2011, 01:47 PM
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Question of the day??

Why would the DALPA MEC Chairman recently agree to allow Delta Air Lines the ability to change the JV language with KLM/AF to allow a three year look back vs. the original one year look back for compliance with 50/50?

Ask yourself why he would use a MOU to do this rather than an LOA??
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Old 11-26-2011, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Many of those cards have expired...I wish DPA would be honest (aka transparent) with all of us and let us know how many ACTIVE cards are on file.

Transparent.

Survey results released to the pilots would be transparent. Explain to me how keeping those survey results secret really helps the PILOT's cause strategically.

Think about it.
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