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Old 08-08-2011, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
As far as WS helping out pilots... keep in mind that WS installed the security cameras for a witch hunt on the fake koolaid kronicle ...
That is completely wrong. The cameras were installed after many pilot complaints about theft. I don't think that DAL really wanted to put them in, but finally did.

If that's your understanding of that event, I can only imagine how far wrong you are on the other issues facing us.

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Old 08-08-2011, 12:46 PM
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That is completely wrong. The cameras were installed after many pilot complaints about theft. I don't think that DAL really wanted to put them in, but finally did.

If that's your understanding of that event, I can only imagine how far wrong you are on the other issues facing us.

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Just passing along first hand info. Ever notice the timing of the cameras going up coincided with the fake koolaid kronicle? It was publicly justified as to the complaints- in that part you are correct.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
No one is impartial. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. A mod is here to uphold the TOS. Let me know if you find being impartial as listed in there.

All of my info is first hand, FYI.
Got it. The good old God Syndrome. Must be nice to be in charge of the internet

What you printed says an actual crime was committed in our lounge. Since the CPO is still employed, I assume he wasn't found guilty? What happened to the pilot you say he framed?

For it to be first hand you'd be involved in the coverup that allowed him to remain CPO after comitting a crime right?
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:00 PM
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Got it. The good old God Syndrome. Must be nice to be in charge of the internet

What you printed says an actual crime was committed in our lounge. Since the CPO is still employed, I assume he wasn't found guilty? What happened to the pilot you say he framed?

For it to be first hand you'd be involved in the coverup that allowed him to remain CPO after comitting a crime right?
There is definitely no God Syndrome here. You're taking the internet and the mod thing a bit too seriously.

The pilot in question got a couple months off as a result of WS staying late one Saturday night to catch him on camera. What was really nice was how he pushed him to tattle on the other pilots.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
There is definitely no God Syndrome here. You're taking the internet and the mod thing a bit too seriously.

The pilot in question got a couple months off as a result of WS staying late one Saturday night to catch him on camera. What was really nice was how he pushed him to tattle on the other pilots.
Basically the five of you got up on Monday and said lets pick on the ATL CPO? We'll write some potentially "inflammatory" remarks that might be "libelous" and at minimum "defamatory" but because I'm the mod those parts of the TOS don't apply? If the pilot got time off, I'm inclined to believe that no crime was committed yet you say he was framed. If what you say is a true then a crime was committed. Why bring forward your evidence today?
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomiezombie
Basically the five of you got up on Monday and said lets pick on the ATL CPO? We'll write some potentially "inflammatory" remarks that might be "libelous" and at minimum "defamatory" but because I'm the mod those parts of the TOS don't apply? If the pilot got time off, I'm inclined to believe that no crime was committed yet you say he was framed. If what you say is a true then a crime was committed. Why bring forward your evidence today?
WS was mentioned, you jumped on the bandwagon saying how great he is, and I have information as to the opposite There was no great conspiracy.

Did you wake up today saying I'm going to say how great WS is on a web forum?

I misspoke in saying the guy in question was framed... he printed out the fake koolaid kronicle and distributed it. He was guilty in that regard. However, the witch hunt to find him was at the very least disappointing.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Another $100 wager?

I'm willing to bet the final won't be even 10% of that figure.

Any takers?
I doubt it will be even that. During the initial trial, ALPA was barred from presenting evidence of what AMR management would have done if the scope waiver had not been approved by the TWA MEC (all TWA pilots by the way who somehow forgot how they voted).

During the damages trial, this evidence will HAVE to be admitted. Therefore, when AMR management testifies that they would have shut down TWA and transferred their assets in a liquidation, the damages will be shown to be zero.

Notwithstanding that there is no case in the first place, proving damages will be incredibly difficult. You never know with a jury, but the TWA pilots are in a difficult position when this evidence gets to trial. I am guessing legal fees and not much else in a settlement.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
WS was mentioned, you jumped on the bandwagon saying how great he is, and I have information as to the opposite There was no great conspiracy.

Did you wake up today saying I'm going to say how great WS is on a web forum?

I misspoke in saying the guy in question was framed... he printed out the fake koolaid kronicle and distributed it. He was guilty in that regard. However, the witch hunt to find him was at the very least disappointing.
No. What actually happened in the real world was that several different posters got on here and said things that may have happened at work may also have happened around the time this pilot was in certain positions. They made vague accusations that this guy may have done something wrong, but didn't actually say he did. I stepped in and said whoa there boyz why are we picking on a guy who has nothing to do with the topic. Maybe I am guilty of defending a guy who isn't here from an anonymous attack in a public forum but then you went one step further by driving the point home that this guy might be dirty. You obviously have a personal issue with him and should probably step back and take a deep breath.

The reason my friends urged me to get off the regular forum was that things here were different. All I've seen so far is that in this thread one makes accusations and they get left out there to fester. You are just an angry guy that happens to also have super powers to edit and delete posts that don't fit your agenda. You act with insider knowledge that none of us has and air potentially dirty laundry to the public. If I wrote that you'd had an incident that you didn't report and gave enough detail to id you - you would have already deleted it. I guess we'll see how quick this forum gets shut down the next time were all sued during the contract battle.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomiezombie
Wow! That's a real stretch. That pilot helps pilots out more than any other CPO I've seen. I'd rather not see character assassination used for this purpose. That's just cold blooded IMHO. It's been close to 10 years since he held a union position. Now he's doing good for the pilots as a CP. Why drag his good name through the mud? I only see one or two names of pilots that had union positions many years ago even close to 4th floor and a guy on the front line like WS doesn't count in my book. So he chose to apply for a vacant job with other pilots. So no one in the DPA will take a LCA position or and SLI position or....

Give this shameful ruse a break

Do you know how to read? Read the posting question and history before you go into hystrionics about character assasinations.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Another $100 wager?

I'm willing to bet the final won't be even 10% of that figure.

Any takers?

PG;

You're a welcher, I cant bet with you
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