Wasatch Phantom

Some years ago, when greenslips were flowing freely, there was a bit of a scandal. There were several ALPA pilots who would drop trips for ALPA business and then pick up greenslips over part of that period.

Some concerned pilots were monitoring this self dealing and would post schedules showing trips being dropped for "ALPA business" and the subsequent greenslip awarded trips of the offending pilot on the bulletin boards.

I don't recall specifically if WS was one of those but I believe it occurred around the time he was the ATL LEC chairman.

There was also a LEC chairman in SLC who became a SLC Chief Pilot; initials JM.

zoomiezombie

So you are trying to tell me that something may have happened and it may not have been either of these guys but after 10 years you are getting your revenge?

If what you say is true then you obviously took care of it back then? If you didn't, why not? If it was taken care of then you clearly don't like this guys for union guys, so who cares if they go to management since you clearly have problems with them. Except, you are now giving exactly enough info for someone to figure out exactly who these pilots are. Why bring it up now? WS is a solid chief pilot. What's next pilots that had DUI's can't be good guys. Pilots that used to be bullies in high school. Hows about guys who failed a check ride or type rating? What purpose can there be to your life to bring up something that might have happened 10 years ago that is going to cause issues with a pilot who currently holds a position that were talking about?

Now me's thinks abouts it, why are several of you picking on the ATL CPO? Is there a secret message board that said let's pick on the CPO today. His life isnt hard enough so you have to allege he might have done something a decade ago?

FIIGMO

I do agree 100%. What does DPA stand for? I thought that this was forum to talk about some good positive points. I keep hearing a lot of DPA backers talking about what DALPA is not doing or how they are screwing us and ripping us off! Also a lot of mud slinging. Well, I can not say there are not any abuses on the part of some in ALPA membership. I am also certain that DPA will be accused and in some cases of rightfully so in the future of similar issues (always happens). Point is, what is DPA prepared to do better for this pilot group before openers in April? I support DPA (have signed the card) and will vote for them after this contract if ALPA does not deliver. DPA has a lot of maturing to do and the stakes are too high to split the group now and take a risk on a nubile entity. Look at where American is right now.

80ktsClamp

As far as WS helping out pilots... keep in mind that WS installed the security cameras for a witch hunt on the fake koolaid kronicle (went as far as staying late on saturday night to frame the guy that was writing it). He also is the one that began the witch hunt on the "internet list" of pilots that supposedly logged into Deltanet when flying.

Pineapple Guy

How about the last 10 years? The only one that I know of was WS, he might have been MORE than 10 years ago, AND he specifically went to the MEC and got their approval to do that prior to moving to that position, as I understand it.

Did it happen in the old days (i.e. 20+ years ago) - YES
Is it wrong, imo - YES
Has it happened in a very long time - NO

Pineapple Guy

Another $100 wager?

I'm willing to bet the final won't be even 10% of that figure.

Any takers?

Ferd149

I've always felt strongly both ways on this issue. I can see why some guys look at it as departing the true faith and they have too much inside union information. But, I also like the idea that you have a proven pilot advocate in a senior management chair (or even just a chief pilot chair for that matter).

We had a couple exunion types in management at NWA and I thought they were good fits (especially one DTW Chief Pilot). Now, with that said, there was some controversy with with our VP of Flight Ops during our strike. He was an exunion type who made sure we didn't have any scabs by shutting us down, but he did go to his office and get paid (said it was an FAA Certificate problem as I recall).

Anyway, my last serious post for a while.

Ferd

zoomiezombie

I don't understand any of this. This isn't pro DPA or anti ALPA, its throwing mud on a pilot who is currently employed as the CPO in ATL. WTH? Either he has or hasn't done something wrong. I'm getting a little tired of the "do you still beat your wife" theme that seems to be going on here. There's three different posters singling him out. Coincidence?

zoomiezombie

I thought moderators where supposed to be impartial? The list is now up to five different posters including a moderator who don't like WS and are now ganging up on him. Am I the only pilot who ever got help from him? Good grief. I thought the security cameras where to stop people from messing with our stuff in a secure area? I remember a huge thread on the other board about ramp rats going through our lounge. Now I'm to understand it's a witch hunt, there was no fake and they framed a guy? This is really starting to sound like a tall tale. You aren't a moderator your an instigator.

80ktsClamp

No one is impartial. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. A mod is here to uphold the TOS. Let me know if you find being impartial as listed in there.

All of my info is first hand, FYI.