Carl Spackler

Why do you ask Clancy? Are you hoping to take pictures and write down names of people speaking about the DPA? Looking forward to more flight pay loss are you?

Carl

clancy

I've heard the DPA complaints about the Atlanta pilot lounge. Reminded me of the George Clooney movie, Men Who Stare at Goats. Did the Atlanta reps cause the DPA volunteers to lock up and fall over like those poor goats, or just whimper because they got looked at too hard?

Organizing is tough. If you have to hide behind a veil of secrecy, it's a sign of weakness. Put everything out in the open.

Yeah, and I can see you typing now about FPL. You want to use FPL as a political weapon against some ALPA volunteer that doesn't see things your way. If you can't convince him with honest debate, just stab him in the back with some forum post or pilot lounge schedule post that slanders him. A lie is half way around the world before the truth gets out of bed.

Carl Spackler

Wow. Unbelievably clueless. The DPA volunteers beat the paid ALPA goons in every way. Every allegation that the paid ALPA goons ran to management with was beaten back by the DPA volunteers. And you call that "wimpering" because the DPA got "looked at" too hard? The only wimperer was that paid ALPA goon that got caught with the filthy sex based video with the Delta name in it on his laptop.

More utter cluelessness. The DPA has a website that anyone can study. Afterward, they can decide whether you want to send in your card. 25% of the Delta seniority list has done that so far. No veils of secrecy...except the veils ALPA still holds up to not show who gets paid flight pay loss for "volunteer" activity. Volunteer activity like trying to stop the free speech rights of DELTA PILOTS during the ATL meeting.

No, I use it as a FACTUAL weapon. The ALPA volunteers that came to disrupt the DPA meeting in ATL were paid flight pay loss. That's indefensible. Yet ALPA refuses to release the data on it - even though the DTW council has passed a lawful resolution for the MEC to do so. It's not a weapon to point out ALPA's own behavior.

There's not been a single honest word in any of your post. Just the standard talking points from the ALPA fax machine. If you and the other ALPA apologists knew anything about honesty, you wouldn't have just been found guilty by a jury in the TWA case. You could learn a lot about being honest.

Carl

clancy

Carl, "unbelievably clueless"! Yeah right. You are great at the sound bite. I'm finally figuring out the DPA. They're a couple of front men like TC, backed by guys that want to chip away at the SLI and merger anyway they can. Just look at the resolutions that are coming out of the DPA strongholds. It's the constant attempts at inroads by the senior guys at fNWA to "analyze" retirement, in order to be able to make input to C2012 in order for things to be "fair". Give me a break. I see through the subterfuge. Guys like you didn't take enough advantage of the green and blue book guys and now you want to wreak the same havoc on the former DAL guys. I'm not buying it. The SLI is what it is. Our retirement is what it is. No favorites, no special groups. I see through what you guys are trying to do. You will never stop will you?

Carl Spackler

Nothing I could ever have said would have proved your ignorance more than this post. Wonderful job! You really are ALPA's best and brightest aren't you.

Please keep this up clancy. It's the very best thing for the DPA.

Carl

clancy

Not your usual snappy reply Carl. Does it surprise you that someone is on to you? Throw out ALPA, throw out fairness, throw out honesty, and then get to work making those small contractual changes that make inroads on the SLI or improve retirement benefits for one group at the expense of others. We've already heard the beginnings of this garbage out of C20 and RW. Just a little more DC for our little group to make us "more equal" at the expense of other junior guys and gals. It isn't going to work. Pretty soon the good pilots you have fooled with statements like "LM makes $600k/year" and "regional carriers have a say in our scope", are going to find out. They will investigate and get the truth. I just hope it happens before it ruins our upcoming contract.

Carl Spackler

Hilarious! ALPA and honesty in the same sentence? Honesty as shown to the TWA pilots? Honesty by destroying documents, destroying computer hard drives and perjury?

ALPA and fairness in the same sentence? Fairness like that shown to its own union that they tried to bust? Really clancy, you're making a fool of yourself.

Who's we? You and your imaginary friend? NOBODY is talking about this in C20...Nobody.

Of course it won't work. Because nobody is talking about it. Except for you and your friend.

Carl

Carl Spakler

So you have nothing to complain about then, and the rest of your post is as irrelevant as it is untrue.

Old pal, this forum is not good for you. Please go outside and take a walk.

Harboring all this hate is like drinking poison, hoping it will kill the other guy.

clancy

Don't really know which thread to post this on, but am hoping that some of the DPA guys who posted testimonials read this.

Second to last testimonial... If you didn't sign your name, you are a "critic", not the "man in the ring".

Last testimonial... Read the Contract Comparison, before writing about the Contract Comparison. Southwest, UPS, and FedEx are all in there.

Carl Spackler

I've not complained. I've simply posted that the ALPA goons like you were beaten back at every attempt to disrupt the DPA event in ATL. Too bad for all of us that many of you got paid flight pay loss for your fruitless efforts.

The truth is difficult for cyberstalkers like you dude.

Posting the truth and unmasking union thuggery is very good for me.

Right off the ALPA fax machine. Refer to all legitimate debate against ALPA as hate.

Keep this up stalker-boy. It's good for everyone to see ALPA's best and brightest.

Carl