Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major
Delta Pilots Association >

Delta Pilots Association

Search

Notices
Major Legacy, National, and LCC

Delta Pilots Association

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-23-2011, 09:58 AM
  #5161  
Gets Weekends Off
 
brakechatter's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 404
Default

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
A good things that I would not have done if I got hired at 26. I am a glass half full kind of guy in this regard.
Easy does it there huckleberry.
brakechatter is offline  
Old 04-23-2011, 10:00 AM
  #5162  
The Brown Dot +1
 
scambo1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Default

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
True enough. But more times than not, pilot opinions are presented as facts.

Is this your opinion or is it a fact?
scambo1 is offline  
Old 04-23-2011, 10:19 AM
  #5163  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,539
Default

Originally Posted by scambo1
Is this your opinion or is it a fact?
BaaaaZZZZIIINNNGG!
slowplay is offline  
Old 04-23-2011, 10:22 AM
  #5164  
Gets Weekends Off
 
buzzpat's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
Default

Originally Posted by scambo1
Is this your opinion or is it a fact?
Ouch!!!!!
buzzpat is offline  
Old 04-24-2011, 06:09 AM
  #5165  
Gets Weekends Off
 
nerd2009's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Delta M88 A ATL
Posts: 383
Default

Just following up on my previous message:

ALPA Policy Manual:

(additions mandated by the court settlement in a previous scope lawsuit)

Section 40. Part 1. Subpart I.

1. Prior to commencement of any bargaining for any ALPA pilot group within a mainline/express system, the applicable Negotiating Committee will meet with the Negotiating Committees of other ALPA pilot groups in the mainline/express system to review opening scope proposals and how they advance ALPA’s scope goals and guidelines. The committees will work with each other to develop a consensus on proposals; if, however, they are unable to do so, subsection 3a below will apply.



a. Following consultation as specified above, and prior to submission of the scope proposal to the airline, the applicable Negotiating Committee will report to the Scope Subcommittee that ALPA pilot groups have consulted with one another and have or have not reached consensus that the planned scope proposal meets ALPA’s scope goals and guidelines; if the latter, Negotiating Committees of other ALPA pilot groups in the system can submit statements of agreement or disagreement to the Scope Subcommittee, which can recommend changes following consultation with the Negotiating Committees involved.



b. The applicable Negotiating Committee and ALPA pilot groups within the mainline/express system will develop in conjunction with the opening proposal agreed reporting benchmarks with respect to developments in on-going scope negotiations which will require that the Negotiating Committee provide updates on the status of scope negotiations to the Scope Subcommittee. In the absence of consensual agreements concerning benchmarks, the Scope Subcommittee will determine reporting benchmarks.



2. During the period that final approval of a collective bargaining agreement is subject to Presidential review under the Constitution and By-Laws, MEC designated representatives of all ALPA pilot groups within the mainline/express system may submit comments prior to the Presidential signature concerning conformity of negotiated scope provisions with recommendations of the Scope Subcommittee and Association policy.
nerd2009 is offline  
Old 04-24-2011, 10:08 AM
  #5166  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Posts: 187
Default

Originally Posted by 1234
Is this the same TC that continuously posted on the NWA ALPA message board about how upset he was over the furlough grievance and how he was able to delay or cancel numerous flights?
Yes, he is that guy. That series of posts alone is enough to raise a big caution flag over DPA for me. He posted dozens of reports about how he was able to delay flights over questionable writeups for misaligned or loose fasteners. He was cautioned over and over that there were better channels to air his grievances than the ALPA web board, but he continued on for weeks with his frequent bragging reports. It came across to me and others as a pathetic attempt to gain attention and be some kind of hero. It was so over the top that I would bet that if someone could access archives of those posts and post excerpts here DPA's support would fall off of a cliff.

As I visit the DPA web site from time to time Tim's name is the only one out there. The section on (mostly unfilled) base rep positions has been taken down. There are occasional references to all of the talented and experienced volunteers working with DPA, but they are never named. Why?

I have never met Tim C., but because of that lengthy series of posts I will stay away from DPA unless some other names of people that I trust are attached to this organization.
Pro Fessional is offline  
Old 04-24-2011, 01:05 PM
  #5167  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,619
Default

So, the DPA can't meet their timeline and they erase their timeline from their website. They can't fill their base representatives so they erase that link from their website. Awesome follow through.
alfaromeo is offline  
Old 04-24-2011, 01:18 PM
  #5168  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Splash's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2010
Position: Boeing Boss
Posts: 335
Default

They are still paying the PFAA and AMFA law firm, though.
Splash is offline  
Old 04-24-2011, 01:23 PM
  #5169  
At home on the maddog!
 
DAL 88 Driver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Default

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
So, the DPA can't meet their timeline and they erase their timeline from their website. They can't fill their base representatives so they erase that link from their website. Awesome follow through.
So ALPA can't admit that they're just accepting our profession to be worth about HALF what it's typically been worth. They can't say that because the pilot group would revolt... so they just refuse to state a clear objective. Awesome follow through.
DAL 88 Driver is offline  
Old 04-24-2011, 01:54 PM
  #5170  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2010
Posts: 339
Default

Originally Posted by shiznit
Again, how does putting 1500 mainline pilots on the street, gaining 2000 IBT and non-union pilots help ALPA?

For that matter, how would putting 1500 mainline pilots on the street and gaining 2000 regional pilots help ALPA?
Once you understand that the difference between regional and mainline pilots is an engineered scam, you'll answer your own question.
sticky is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lbell911
Regional
23
04-22-2012 10:33 AM
WatchThis!
Major
68
07-13-2008 08:12 AM
757Driver
Mergers and Acquisitions
190
04-19-2008 11:27 AM
WatchThis!
Mergers and Acquisitions
2
04-14-2008 07:25 PM
RockBottom
Major
5
04-13-2006 05:14 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices