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Old 04-20-2011, 11:27 AM
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Which "this" do you refer? Surely you do not mean Delta & NWA do you?
Of course that's what he means. And he is correct.

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Frankly, all that merger proved is being a minority affords the luxury of being much tougher in negotiations and arbitration. Being the majority requires a much more conservative position to avoid harm on a macro basis.
Utter hogwash.

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Powerful minorities can be tactical. Majorities have to be strategic.
Both need to be strategic. The non-strategic thinking side will lose. Period.

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Old 04-20-2011, 11:30 AM
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We could always invite in the Teamsters.

Yup...we could do that!





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Old 04-20-2011, 12:39 PM
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Isn't that Seham, Seham, Meltz & Soprano?
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:48 PM
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The scope problem can be broken down quite simply into two questions.

What would happen if Delta tomorrow gave Skywest another CRJ 900 in DAL colors?
What would happen if Delta tomorrow gave Skywest a 747 in DAL colors?

In the contract legal sense, both are the same violation of the section 1 scope agreement since DAL is maxed out on the 76 seat RJs. However, both are not seen by the pilot group as being of the same weight. This is where the root of the scope problem lies. It is something no union has the ability to fix.
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The scope problem can be broken down quite simply into two questions.

What would happen if Delta tomorrow gave Skywest another CRJ 900 in DAL colors?
What would happen if Delta tomorrow gave Skywest a 747 in DAL colors?

In the contract legal sense, both are the same violation of the section 1 scope agreement since DAL is maxed out on the 76 seat RJs. However, both are not seen by the pilot group as being of the same weight. This is where the root of the scope problem lies. It is something no union has the ability to fix.
Really?

Southwest Airlines association's scope treats both the same.

All it takes is unity and the unwillingness to sell out the other pilots on your list.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Karnak




Isn't that Seham, Seham, Meltz & Soprano?


Yup. I prefer it so much to the ALPA law team of: Pinkie, French & Flee.






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Old 04-20-2011, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The scope problem can be broken down quite simply into two questions.

What would happen if Delta tomorrow gave Skywest another CRJ 900 in DAL colors?
What would happen if Delta tomorrow gave Skywest a 747 in DAL colors?

In the contract legal sense, both are the same violation of the section 1 scope agreement since DAL is maxed out on the 76 seat RJs. However, both are not seen by the pilot group as being of the same weight. This is where the root of the scope problem lies. It is something no union has the ability to fix.
Both are seen by the pilot group as being the same weight. Both are not seen by ALPA as being the same weight. Unfortunately, ALPA is all that matters.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:56 PM
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I wonder if DPA is going to see a spike in cards this week...

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Old 04-20-2011, 07:14 PM
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I wonder if DPA is going to see a spike in cards this week...

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Old 04-20-2011, 07:17 PM
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Just gained one a sec ago.
Pretty bummed out right now Jesse. Can you throw us a bone from your collection of photos? It may not help...but it couldn't hurt!

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