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04-18-2011, 01:32 PM
#4961
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Position: A-320A
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ACL65,
Why do our Reps want to hear from us about RJet? What's for us to tell them? Is it their typical response to a scope violation, which is?
(1) Do you have incontrovertible evidence (that we can't sweep under the rug) ?
(2) If there is a scope violation found, what do you want for it ?
No other contractor of mine has billed me over $1,000 this year and followed up the bill with questions like, "you want me to do the job you paid me for, or just let it slide?"
The DPA is flat out not the answer, but as ALPA abdicates it's role as enforcer of our contract, the DPA is going to find more and more desperate converts.
Jet A in the wing at a rough average of $3.30 a gallon puts the question of furloughs and job protection provisions back on the table. As Boyd states "no airplane flying today was designed with these kind of fuel prices in mind."
Why do our Reps want to hear from us about RJet? What's for us to tell them? Is it their typical response to a scope violation, which is?
(1) Do you have incontrovertible evidence (that we can't sweep under the rug) ?
(2) If there is a scope violation found, what do you want for it ?
No other contractor of mine has billed me over $1,000 this year and followed up the bill with questions like, "you want me to do the job you paid me for, or just let it slide?"
The DPA is flat out not the answer, but as ALPA abdicates it's role as enforcer of our contract, the DPA is going to find more and more desperate converts.
Jet A in the wing at a rough average of $3.30 a gallon puts the question of furloughs and job protection provisions back on the table. As Boyd states "no airplane flying today was designed with these kind of fuel prices in mind."
Well, like any good pilot, I submitted my position along with supporting documentation. This time it was/ is by a neutral third party. It is up to them to decide.
What they decide will have ramifications, whether or not we pursue the claim.
04-18-2011, 02:09 PM
#4962
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
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I did call my rep to voice my opinion. FWIW he was in agreement and agreed that some sort of explanation is in order. The local reps seem to be on board it's the MEC and National level that I'm worried about.
04-18-2011, 02:19 PM
#4963
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My bet is that it's going to take longer than that to reach 6,500 cards, and as such, the vote will not take place until after the new contract is signed. It will be nice to have a new union in place then. A union that will actually defend the contract.
The 2018 time frame will depend on the company, the NMB, and DALPA. But it is an excellent plan to have a new union by then to defend the new contract. I'll be 60 in 2016 so I probably won't see very much of the new contract.
Carl
The 2018 time frame will depend on the company, the NMB, and DALPA. But it is an excellent plan to have a new union by then to defend the new contract. I'll be 60 in 2016 so I probably won't see very much of the new contract.
Carl
Nice.
04-18-2011, 02:30 PM
#4964
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WOW, Carl. So is it your understanding that DPA will continue their card drive while we are in the middle of Section 6 negotiations? That's certainly a recipe to ensure failure for ALL Delta pilots. Hard to maximize our leverage if 2000 guys are trying to decertify the union's collective bargaining agent.
Nice.
Nice.
04-18-2011, 02:33 PM
#4965
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Carl
04-18-2011, 02:36 PM
#4966
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Bueller, buuuuuuueller?
Carl
04-18-2011, 02:40 PM
#4967
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Sorry, couldn't resist.
04-18-2011, 02:41 PM
#4968
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Carl
04-18-2011, 02:50 PM
#4969
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You think that because you don't actually read the posts from whom you disagree with. Your blind rage takes over and, well...blinds you.
I'm sure that's the case. I'm also sure there are pilots doing ALPA work that agree with my points exactly. But they also know what an uphill battle they face.
How goofy. Our next contract negotiations will be seriously damaged if our union goes in like the puppy dogs they've been so far. Not even enforcing our Section 1 is sending a terrible message of weakness to management prior to Section 6 beginning. A card drive to throw out the current weaklings is exactly the right message that BOTH SIDES of the table needs to produce the best contract.
But if the majority agrees to stick with ALPA, then so be it. Even though our next contract negotiations has to be hurt, it's a small price to pay for you to have stuck it out with ALPA to make you feel better.
Carl
But if the majority agrees to stick with ALPA, then so be it. Even though our next contract negotiations has to be hurt, it's a small price to pay for you to have stuck it out with ALPA to make you feel better.
Carl
04-18-2011, 02:58 PM
#4970
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Then again, I seriously doubt that the MEC Administration will not follow the will of the MEC Council. That right there is job suicide.
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