Delta Pilots Association
04-02-2011, 08:39 AM
#4812
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
But everyone DOES know your method of operation. Hurl out a baseless accusation, get proven wrong (again), then stop posting until people forget your latest example juvenille behavior.
Carl
04-02-2011, 09:33 AM
#4813
At home on the maddog!
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
More proof of how little you know about anything. I've stated many, many times that I thought the arbitrator's decision on our SLI was a very well thought out legal opinion. It is why nobody has even thought of attempting any kind of appeal. As such, I have no anger at all about the SLI. None toward my fellow Delta pilots, and certainly none toward either side's representation.
But everyone DOES know your method of operation. Hurl out a baseless accusation, get proven wrong (again), then stop posting until people forget your latest example juvenille behavior.
Carl
But everyone DOES know your method of operation. Hurl out a baseless accusation, get proven wrong (again), then stop posting until people forget your latest example juvenille behavior.
Carl
04-02-2011, 09:44 AM
#4814
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
You got that right. Many of the remarks over the past few days can only be classified as "juvenile." The vast majority of the criticisms in this entire thread about DPA are nothing more than attempts at character assassination. To be fair, that's happened on both sides. And I'm still waiting for the ALPA cheerleaders to start talking objectives and how they plan to achieve those objectives. But that's a hot potato none of them seem to want. They'll try to change the subject every single time.
Change the subject indeed. Speaking of change, I need a quarter for some Coke. Anyone got any change?
Just trying to save all the usual suspects the trouble of responding to you DAL88.
Carl
04-02-2011, 09:47 AM
#4815
At home on the maddog!
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Change the subject? We never change the subject! We are not your subjects and you are not our king. So quit trying to be a monarch.
Change the subject indeed. Speaking of change, I need a quarter for some Coke. Anyone got any change?
Just trying to save all the usual suspects the trouble of responding to you DAL88.
Carl
Change the subject indeed. Speaking of change, I need a quarter for some Coke. Anyone got any change?
Just trying to save all the usual suspects the trouble of responding to you DAL88.
Carl
04-02-2011, 09:51 AM
#4816
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,903
You got that right. Many of the remarks over the past few days can only be classified as "juvenile." The vast majority of the criticisms in this entire thread about DPA are nothing more than attempts at character assassination. To be fair, that's happened on both sides. And I'm still waiting for the ALPA cheerleaders to start talking objectives and how they plan to achieve those objectives. But that's a hot potato none of them seem to want. They'll try to change the subject every single time.
If each side thinks they're right, then make your case. Let the pilots decide. I'm not really sure what the problem with this is.
But I can guess. TOO much testosterone and type A personalities with the currrent crew. They don't see the DPA as alternate representation for the pilots, but another dog ****ing on their tree. Like all such groups, they embrace the challenge a bit too much because whether they admit it or not, they love all the BS drama that goes with this...the committees, strategic planning, "missing briefings" and plans to "defeat the enemy" that goes with it.
But all this crap does zero for the pilot group. They put their little merry band before the pilots at large, put their "bros", squadron buddies and college ring bearers before the good of the pilot group. Soon it becomes the status quo of their little band of brothers that they are defending, and not the overall well being of the pilots they take money to represent.
Sad, really. We've got careers at stake, worth billions of dollars and the well being of over ten thousand pilots, and they're playing "Tree Fort" with our money.
Nu
04-02-2011, 10:02 AM
#4817
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Totally agreed. I may not support the DPA, but I think that if we want to foster some REAL unity, rather than than simply allowing ourselves to be blugeoned into superficial "unity" by use of the propoganda handbook procedures, then a total vetting of both sides would be a VERY healthy process.
If each side thinks they're right, then make your case. Let the pilots decide. I'm not really sure what the problem with this is.
But I can guess. TOO much testosterone and type A personalities with the currrent crew. They don't see the DPA as alternate representation for the pilots, but another dog ****ing on their tree. Like all such groups, they embrace the challenge a bit too much because whether they admit it or not, they love all the BS drama that goes with this...the committees, strategic planning, "missing briefings" and plans to "defeat the enemy" that goes with it.
But all this crap does zero for the pilot group. They put their little merry band before the pilots at large, put their "bros", squadron buddies and college ring bearers before the good of the pilot group. Soon it becomes the status quo of their little band of brothers that they are defending, and not the overall well being of the pilots they take money to represent.
Sad, really. We've got careers at stake, worth billions of dollars and the well being of over ten thousand pilots, and they're playing "Tree Fort" with our money.
Nu
If each side thinks they're right, then make your case. Let the pilots decide. I'm not really sure what the problem with this is.
But I can guess. TOO much testosterone and type A personalities with the currrent crew. They don't see the DPA as alternate representation for the pilots, but another dog ****ing on their tree. Like all such groups, they embrace the challenge a bit too much because whether they admit it or not, they love all the BS drama that goes with this...the committees, strategic planning, "missing briefings" and plans to "defeat the enemy" that goes with it.
But all this crap does zero for the pilot group. They put their little merry band before the pilots at large, put their "bros", squadron buddies and college ring bearers before the good of the pilot group. Soon it becomes the status quo of their little band of brothers that they are defending, and not the overall well being of the pilots they take money to represent.
Sad, really. We've got careers at stake, worth billions of dollars and the well being of over ten thousand pilots, and they're playing "Tree Fort" with our money.
Nu
Carl
04-02-2011, 10:07 AM
#4818
At home on the maddog!
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Totally agreed. I may not support the DPA, but I think that if we want to foster some REAL unity, rather than than simply allowing ourselves to be blugeoned into superficial "unity" by use of the propoganda handbook procedures, then a total vetting of both sides would be a VERY healthy process.
If each side thinks they're right, then make your case. Let the pilots decide. I'm not really sure what the problem with this is.
But I can guess. TOO much testosterone and type A personalities with the currrent crew. They don't see the DPA as alternate representation for the pilots, but another dog ****ing on their tree. Like all such groups, they embrace the challenge a bit too much because whether they admit it or not, they love all the BS drama that goes with this...the committees, strategic planning, "missing briefings" and plans to "defeat the enemy" that goes with it.
But all this crap does zero for the pilot group. They put their little merry band before the pilots at large, put their "bros", squadron buddies and college ring bearers before the good of the pilot group. Soon it becomes the status quo of their little band of brothers that they are defending, and not the overall well being of the pilots they take money to represent.
Sad, really. We've got careers at stake, worth billions of dollars and the well being of over ten thousand pilots, and they're playing "Tree Fort" with our money.
Nu
If each side thinks they're right, then make your case. Let the pilots decide. I'm not really sure what the problem with this is.
But I can guess. TOO much testosterone and type A personalities with the currrent crew. They don't see the DPA as alternate representation for the pilots, but another dog ****ing on their tree. Like all such groups, they embrace the challenge a bit too much because whether they admit it or not, they love all the BS drama that goes with this...the committees, strategic planning, "missing briefings" and plans to "defeat the enemy" that goes with it.
But all this crap does zero for the pilot group. They put their little merry band before the pilots at large, put their "bros", squadron buddies and college ring bearers before the good of the pilot group. Soon it becomes the status quo of their little band of brothers that they are defending, and not the overall well being of the pilots they take money to represent.
Sad, really. We've got careers at stake, worth billions of dollars and the well being of over ten thousand pilots, and they're playing "Tree Fort" with our money.
Nu
04-02-2011, 04:01 PM
#4820
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,462
Hey Nu, I think both sides have done just that for the past 11 months. At the moment, about 2,000 prefer one organization, and 10,000 the other.
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