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Old 02-02-2011, 12:12 PM
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"Stream of consciousness" writing gone bad, or a nervous breakdown in progress?
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Old 02-02-2011, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Splash
I believe the Vols are a great team.
I believe ALPA is totally fallible.
I believe Carl is reasonable.

Time to crank up the Auto-Disagree 3000, tsquare!

You're a gaytor aren't you... HA! I knew it!

I'm not talkin alpa politics anymore.. it's outta my control. If'n ya wanna talk college sports.. I'm in..

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Old 02-02-2011, 04:12 PM
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You're a gaytor aren't you..
Florida sucks!
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Splash
Florida sucks!
Well.. There IS something that maybe we agree on
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:26 PM
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I've been suspicious for some time now about ALPA national's agenda. Those suspicions were erased today by the latest Air Line Pilot magazine. The following is part of an interview of Capt Moak on page 12:

ALPA staff: What do you think are or should be ALPA's highest priorities in collective bargaining? Contract enforcement? Safety? Security?

Capt Moak: "...Local pilot leaders chart the course of negotiations and - through consensus of their members - make the decisions on priorities. At the national and international level, our highest priority is to help pilot leaders at different carriers visualize favorable contract patterns across the industry and provide the resources to reach a contract that ensures the greater good for the entire profession. Contracts that focus solely on self-interests will inevitably lower the high standards that this union has established for eight decades and in the end hurt all of us."

This should put to rest the myth that local leaders do the negotiating and decide their own contracts. I'm posting this on the Delta L&G thread as well.

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Old 02-05-2011, 07:38 PM
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If not our own self interest then whose self interests should we be negotiating for?

And why would doing something in our own self interest, such as scope AND pay, hurt ALPA national/international and "us" all? Who is us?

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Old 02-05-2011, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I've been suspicious for some time now about ALPA national's agenda. Those suspicions were erased today by the latest Air Line Pilot magazine. The following is part of an interview of Capt Moak on page 12:

ALPA staff: What do you think are or should be ALPA's highest priorities in collective bargaining? Contract enforcement? Safety? Security?

Capt Moak: "...Local pilot leaders chart the course of negotiations and - through consensus of their members - make the decisions on priorities. At the national and international level, our highest priority is to help pilot leaders at different carriers visualize favorable contract patterns across the industry and provide the resources to reach a contract that ensures the greater good for the entire profession. Contracts that focus solely on self-interests will inevitably lower the high standards that this union has established for eight decades and in the end hurt all of us."

This should put to rest the myth that local leaders do the negotiating and decide their own contracts. I'm posting this on the Delta L&G thread as well.

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Good catch, Carl! I would have totally missed that as my copy of that magazine goes directly into the trash as soon as I note the RJ pilot of the month on the front cover.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Good catch, Carl! I would have totally missed that as my copy of that magazine goes directly into the trash as soon as I note the RJ pilot of the month on the front cover.


Man are we that bad??? That wasn't nice i am sorry that i got stuck here at the rj level
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:21 PM
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Man are we that bad??? That wasn't nice i am sorry that i got stuck here at the rj level
Nope, it's not that your bad, it's that your stuck there- that is the result of the overall problem.

Less outsourcing, more hiring here, less stuck there.

The magazine is tossed when it celebrates the appeasement of the current situation.
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Nope, it's not that your bad, it's that your stuck there- that is the result of the overall problem.

Less outsourcing, more hiring here, less stuck there.

The magazine is tossed when it celebrates the appeasement of the current situation.

Bingo. It's not a personal thing... it's that the outsourcing that is ruining all our careers that is continually promoted. Kind of like all the ALPA guys from Midwest smiling on the cover of the ALPA rag after they had been fully outsourced and shut down. Absolutely disgusting.
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