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12-29-2010, 06:53 PM
#3783
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Okay, PG. Unless there's something I'm missing, it's looking like DPA is not going to get off the ground. If they were getting the number of cards needed to meet their timeline, then I'm pretty sure we would have all heard about it by now.
So, since you're such a big ALPA fan, why don't you tell us exactly how ALPA intends to restore our profession? How do we achieve something so monumental without even identifying it as our objective? How does ALPA effectively represent mainline pilot jobs and outsourced mainline pilot jobs? Any ideas?
Reroute? sailingfun? ACL? Feel free to chime in too.
So, since you're such a big ALPA fan, why don't you tell us exactly how ALPA intends to restore our profession? How do we achieve something so monumental without even identifying it as our objective? How does ALPA effectively represent mainline pilot jobs and outsourced mainline pilot jobs? Any ideas?
Reroute? sailingfun? ACL? Feel free to chime in too.
There's nothing sinister about what they believe, because they truly believe it. The new ALPA president more than most. What IS sinister is their work to hide that from the members of ALPA's few remaining majors.
Carl
12-29-2010, 06:58 PM
#3784
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12-29-2010, 07:04 PM
#3785
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Interesting that your only response is to hire ALPA professionals.
12-29-2010, 07:15 PM
#3786
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fyp....
and...
I have no idea, because frankly I haven't done the research. But... it would be historical if ALPA had absolutely cornered the market on all thei absolute best services that are to be had on the open market. They must be so good that they were able to obtain these services 20 years ago... and those that provide them are too stupid to realize that they are irreplaceable so they haven't raised their prices... Damn.. I wish I were half the pilot.... And if this is true.. we have the wrong people running the US gubbamint... strike that... we ALL know THAT....
J
So I gather that you feel that there is NOBODY... and I mean NOBODY that can do a better job than ALPA. Got it. Where can I send the additional money that I should be down on my hands and knees begging the union to take from me so that I can ensure that nothing changes... better yet... can we start a movement to do away with MEMRAT on anything? I mean.. since there is nobody that can do a better job... we shouldn't bugger up the process with piddly little things like allowing input from the membership.
Good grief.. are you really this infused with the koolaid? Don't bother to answer.. we already know.
and...
I have no idea, because frankly I haven't done the research. But... it would be historical if ALPA had absolutely cornered the market on all thei absolute best services that are to be had on the open market. They must be so good that they were able to obtain these services 20 years ago... and those that provide them are too stupid to realize that they are irreplaceable so they haven't raised their prices... Damn.. I wish I were half the pilot.... And if this is true.. we have the wrong people running the US gubbamint... strike that... we ALL know THAT....
J
So I gather that you feel that there is NOBODY... and I mean NOBODY that can do a better job than ALPA. Got it. Where can I send the additional money that I should be down on my hands and knees begging the union to take from me so that I can ensure that nothing changes... better yet... can we start a movement to do away with MEMRAT on anything? I mean.. since there is nobody that can do a better job... we shouldn't bugger up the process with piddly little things like allowing input from the membership.
Good grief.. are you really this infused with the koolaid? Don't bother to answer.. we already know.
Got it. You have no idea what services are available and we all know that DPA has not announced who they would solicit. Probably because they have no idea either.
Considering that YOU are the DPA apologist without a clue as to who DPA has solicited perhaps you could tell us what flavor cool aid DPA serves.
12-29-2010, 07:24 PM
#3787
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12-29-2010, 07:36 PM
#3788
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A true trade unionist doesn't throw another member under the bus. A true trade unionist understands that what happens to one member of the trade effects all members of the trade. DPA apologists haven't figured that out yet.
12-29-2010, 07:53 PM
#3789
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And management is taking full advantage of this mentality. It would be different if we hadn't taken 40+% pay cuts, lost significant benefits, and had thousands of our jobs outsourced. We might have the luxury of focusing our efforts on improving regional contracts. But now, we split our resources and attention with the regionals... and DALPA carries on as if our current situation is just not all that urgent, telegraphing to management and everyone else concerned that we have begun to accept our profession being worth about HALF of what it traditionally has been worth. No clear objective for rectifying this. No sense of urgency. Absolutely pathetic strategic thinking, IMO.
12-30-2010, 07:46 AM
#3790
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Keep you head in the sand if you want. Reality is each airline is a SEPARATE union under the national ASSOCIATION umbrella. There is no trade union.
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