Delta Pilots Association
12-19-2010, 09:20 AM
#3551
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 737 Capt
Posts: 1,166
Beyond the education shiz has provided you on your own contract, why aren't you questioning the information you're getting from the DPA organizers? Why haven't they explained this to you? Are you willing to vest your future in an organization that doesn't understand the FIRST SENTENCE of the pilot's contract?
There's a disconnect here, and you need to clue up to it.
The DPA would fully expect similar language in their contract to protect themselves from the perpetually pi$$ed pilots who succumb to the sweet cooing from the likes of the DPA puppetmasters.
Supporters of the DPA need to start providing some answers. The "I want things to be different. Don't you want things to be different? National organizations can't be different!" organizing mantra is the same flimsy hooey AMFA and PFAA used to lure their employee groups to failure.
Oh yeah...sign me up for some of THAT!!
There's a disconnect here, and you need to clue up to it.
The DPA would fully expect similar language in their contract to protect themselves from the perpetually pi$$ed pilots who succumb to the sweet cooing from the likes of the DPA puppetmasters.
Supporters of the DPA need to start providing some answers. The "I want things to be different. Don't you want things to be different? National organizations can't be different!" organizing mantra is the same flimsy hooey AMFA and PFAA used to lure their employee groups to failure.
Oh yeah...sign me up for some of THAT!!
12-19-2010, 09:27 AM
#3554
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 852
When you are ready to move past sound bites and start demanding specifics and full disclosure from the DPA about who is pulling the strings, and their record of spectacular failure, let me know.
12-19-2010, 09:29 AM
#3555
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
We're screwed! We have a bunch of pilots who know how to turn on a computer, and log onto this site...but who can't read for comprehension.
When you are ready to move past sound bites and start demanding specifics and full disclosure from the DPA about who is pulling the strings, and their record of spectacular failure, let me know.
When you are ready to move past sound bites and start demanding specifics and full disclosure from the DPA about who is pulling the strings, and their record of spectacular failure, let me know.
12-19-2010, 09:34 AM
#3556
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 852
Cough 'em up!
If you don't know who's pulling the strings, maybe you should start asking the DPA leadership the same questions you ask ALPA leadership about conflicts of interest.
12-19-2010, 09:40 AM
#3557
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Sorry, pal. YOU are the one crying for new representation. YOU are the one who bears the burden of documenting your supporters, your "vision", your law firm, and your organization's rules.
Cough 'em up!
If you don't know who's pulling the strings, maybe you should start asking the DPA leadership the same questions you ask ALPA leadership about conflicts of interest.
Cough 'em up!
If you don't know who's pulling the strings, maybe you should start asking the DPA leadership the same questions you ask ALPA leadership about conflicts of interest.
12-19-2010, 09:45 AM
#3558
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 852
It's Delta's property. If you want to distribute flyers or hang posters for Pilots For Kids, you have to get Delta's permission. It's their property. You are an employee, and have to abide by their rules. Those rules are in the FOM, and in the case of pilot organizing, in the PWA.
If you own property, you can prevent the Westboro Baptist Church from planting yard signs on your lawn.
Your property...your rules.
See? I just saved you from having to pay more to AMFA's lawyers to explain that.
You're welcome, brother!
12-19-2010, 10:09 AM
#3559
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
The vitriol in your posts is palpable. And for your information, I have never said that I support DPA. I have said on numerous occasions that I am anti-ALPA national, but you are putting words into my posts. How convenient for your argument. But you are the one who said this:
And when I called you on it.. and asked you to provide specifics, you said this:
So the reality is that all you are is a keyboard warrior that has nothing to add to the discussion other than your own arm waving and gnashing about. Have a Merry Christmas sir.. and be sure to check your blood pressure.
And when I called you on it.. and asked you to provide specifics, you said this:
Sorry, pal. YOU are the one crying for new representation. YOU are the one who bears the burden of documenting your supporters, your "vision", your law firm, and your organization's rules.
Cough 'em up!
If you don't know who's pulling the strings, maybe you should start asking the DPA leadership the same questions you ask ALPA leadership about conflicts of interest.
Cough 'em up!
If you don't know who's pulling the strings, maybe you should start asking the DPA leadership the same questions you ask ALPA leadership about conflicts of interest.
12-19-2010, 10:17 AM
#3560
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 852
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