Delta Pilots Association
11-22-2010, 05:29 PM
#2782
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 973
11-22-2010, 05:34 PM
#2785
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 737 Capt
Posts: 1,166
DAL88;
It depends on what we ask for. With our overall compensation package already close to the top, we would get some improvements quick, but the rest would have to take a unified group. Having these two carriers restore some of their work rules and pay would go a long way to getting us to an acceptable floor to start from. Also, I did not say "impossible", I said "difficult;" big difference. As I have said, if we get behind our union anything is possible with a little unity and elbow grease!!!!
I think you would be very surprised to know what my minimum pay and total contractual raise is. Of course I am not going to publish that tidbit of info, but it is a long way from managing your expectations downward.
It depends on what we ask for. With our overall compensation package already close to the top, we would get some improvements quick, but the rest would have to take a unified group. Having these two carriers restore some of their work rules and pay would go a long way to getting us to an acceptable floor to start from. Also, I did not say "impossible", I said "difficult;" big difference. As I have said, if we get behind our union anything is possible with a little unity and elbow grease!!!!
I think you would be very surprised to know what my minimum pay and total contractual raise is. Of course I am not going to publish that tidbit of info, but it is a long way from managing your expectations downward.
11-22-2010, 05:38 PM
#2786
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Carl
11-22-2010, 05:38 PM
#2787
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
I was referring to the FDX rate, but since you insist, I agree we will go above where we are and we will get farther as a unified group.
Actually, we do not need them, you are correct, but if those guys leapfrogged our rates buy a good 20-30% if makes the job a lot easier.
Actually, we do not need them, you are correct, but if those guys leapfrogged our rates buy a good 20-30% if makes the job a lot easier.
11-22-2010, 06:05 PM
#2789
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 224
"after the SLI". ?
No. ALPA would be voted off property now based on the TA that was forced down the pilots throats.
The only hitch is the fact that we need a bargaining unit to represent us during the SLI and transition negotiation. We are hoping that ALPA manages to cast off its history of incompetence during SLI's. The exception being DAL/NWA.
AirTran is the classic example that disproves the theory that "we mustn't change our union structure at this vital juncture". It's always a 'vital juncture' until it's too late.
History, both ancient and recent can be a wonderful teacher. The recent failures of both AirTran and Spirit to achieve even industry standard CBA's is lesson enough.
I wish DAL pilots all the luck in the world. I say this without any reservation.
11-22-2010, 06:08 PM
#2790
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Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
The unfair labor practice cases filed against ALPA have been consolidated with another unfair labor practice case against ALPA filed by a former ALPA employee. I mention this because that case demonstrates again the arrogance and poor judgment exhibited by ALPA management. That case was filed because Director of Representation Bruce York, while attending a luncheon with Captain Prater and their counterparts at the Teamsters, criticized a former ALPA employee who had been laid off and had taken a job with the Teamsters and then filed a grievance because he had not received all of the severance pay to which he was entitled. After verbally criticizing a Teamsters employee for engaging in activity protected by the NLRA (filing a grievance), Bruce York compounded the mistake by sending the Teamsters an email repeating that criticism. That petty and pointless gesture led to the issuance of yet another unfair labor practice complaint against ALPA. ALPA's defense is the patently ridiculous argument that, in communicating with officials of the Teamsters, York was not acting as ALPA agent or supervisor. Once again, pilot dues money will be spent defending ALPA's arrogant and unlawful conduct...
The above is an exerpt from Don McClure (ALPA employee union head).
How can we go wrong with our top lawyers behaving this way. This is what you hold out as an example of what we should feel confident about during negotiations?
There is one good thing though, Mr. York's salary of $383,327 was on the low side for an ALPA attorney.
Carl
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