Delta Pilots Association
#2521
They could probably do it with the 20+ million in dues that go to National that we never get back directly.
#2523
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2007
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#2526
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,595
I agree with you 88. I'll admit, I'm on the fence, but keep the cart before horse. The DPA vote doesn't decertify ALPA, just gives us a right to vote whether or not to decertify ALPA. I'm willing to see the DPA be given the opportunity to show us what they can do AND be ready to take over on day 1. I think the pilot group as a whole is smart enough to weigh the pros and cons and come up with the best choice. Either way, the voice of all of the DAL pilots have a chance to be heard and their will be done. Either way, the DAL pilots win.
I agree with most of what you have said however management loves a divided group. If it comes to a vote in a time period where we should be handing are contract opener to the company its going to cost every pilot a bunch of money. Both the pilot and company will over time form their expectations and wants and needs in the contract. The company expectations of how they will do will go way up if the union is in the middle of a decert effort. Its managments biggest wet dream!!!!!! Management personal and pilots were the drivers in the last effort to vote ALPA off the property. They never got enough cards but there was no doubt who the man behind the curtain was in that attempt.
#2527
Man isn't that the truth! Think about what you said for a minute. Think about a strategy that never says a word about restoration and acts like everything is basically going well for us... you know, the LM proactive engagement strategy. What kind of "expectations" has that formed over time?
#2528
What on Earth has happened to us where we have to force our own union to do the job they are supposed to do. What does that tell us? How did we get so far off course.
Carl
#2529
Who cares the exact card count at this point? The bottom line is if they get enough cards there will be a vote and then we will see what the outcome is. I do find it amazing that there are so many pilots who have supposedly sent cards in with so little campaigning by DPA. If in fact the DPA has even 1500 cards I would say ALPA should take heed because there appears to be a lot of DAL pilots that are not happy with them and they may find over 12,000 pilots who dues dollars they will no longer be able to collect.
I'm waiting for the poster (or anyone else who believes that) "25% of Delta Pilots have been sent in a card" to show the way John Q. Public finds out how to access the numbers of cards sent in to the NMB to petition for a representational election.
It seems more like a statement meant to over-inflate the pro-DPA sentiment among the pilots of Delta Air Lines. I want proof.
#2530
Spoken like someone terrified of change. Thumb sucking in the corner will not get the change we all need acl.
Carl
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