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Old 11-03-2010, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Committee suggests and then the BOD reps vote on it. This is what happened for the new ALPA president.

My solution would be to bring our pay up and not to bring theirs (unit 1 and 2) down to come in line with ours!


I get the frustration T, I do, but as I have pointed out there need to be a few things sacred. One is that unions do not bust other unions.
Change from within right.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:52 AM
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Well Carl, I cannot respond for what your reps do, but the reps I have return e-mails and phone calls very quickly. The previous guys did as well. That is something that I think needs to be a given if you opt to take the job. The phone is always on, because as a rep unless you are on mandatory rest, is a full time job.

It is a commitment. If you are in 20, the rest of the guys I know up there seem to like the three representing you currently.
My LEC Reps have always gotten back to me in a timely manner, and I really appreciated their responses even if it was conflicted with my ideas. But, what I NEVER have received is a response from Moak on anything I contacted directly him about. I have sent him 5 emails during my tenure at DAL and not once did I ever get any type of response. Each email requested a direct response of some type but I was completely "blown off" by him.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:22 AM
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But, what I NEVER have received is a response from Moak on anything I contacted directly him about. I have sent him 5 emails during my tenure at DAL and not once did I ever get any type of response. Each email requested a direct response of some type but I was completely "blown off" by him.
Maybe he was too busy deciding whats best for you???
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
You've got that right, bar. The ones that are entrenched have their empire and will protect it with ferocity, spin, and....what you see on this board.

Speaking of... BK needs to be let nowhere near the chairman's seat. NEVER forget his article on scope.
80kts or anyone.......

.....that might have a copy or a link to the B. K. scope article, could you please post it or pm with it??

Thanks.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:33 AM
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The Winter on is in the file library on the C44 website. I do not know where the Fall 2009 one went. It is no longer there.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The Winter on is in the file library on the C44 website. I do not know where the Fall 2009 one went. It is no longer there.
Can someone paraphrase what it said?

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Old 11-04-2010, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The Winter on is in the file library on the C44 website. I do not know where the Fall 2009 one went. It is no longer there.
Well...would perhaps the DALPA communications chairman have that being that he held the office over that time period?
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Old 11-04-2010, 09:35 AM
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It should be archived somewhere. It is not on the site library.
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Excuses, excuses, excuses. deny deny deny , deflect and change the subject. classic.

that's right.. it is the COMMITTEE that determines the pay/benefits... or it is the BOD that sets those numbers. How obvious does the corruption have to be for you to see it?

You and I are going around this maypole a lot. so here's my suggestion. Bookmark this link: YouTube - WILL IT GO AROUND IN CIRCLES - BILLY PRESTON (1972) and when I say Link1, go there and see where we are. k?

I cannot believe you post those statistics regarding the president's bennies without being so outraged yourself that you could finish the post. I mean really...
And the paycut you describe is nowhere near enough.
T, the President's pay is based on what he can hold with his system seniority number at his on airline, or the averageof the top paying positions of 5 ALPA airlines, he's the only national officer who is on permanent leave from his airline and since he is therefore not able to have an airline funded DB or DC plan he gets to accrue a DB while he's president, besides that he gets a place to stay while he's away from home, per diem while he's away from home and a car to drive to work. Wow, the outrage of it all. I mean line pilots would never get per diem, or a place to stay, or a ride to and from the airport when their away from home.

Spin it any way you want, but it has been significantly reduced.
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