Sully & CAPA respond to Flight Time/Duty Time
09-18-2010, 06:16 AM
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The rest and scheduling rules will result in an apx 20% increase in staffing at the feeders to comply. This will exert further downward pressure on wages at these carriers and the claim they cannot operate profitably with 76 seats. The NPRM will be used as the segway into the next round of Scope demands to fly larger acft at the feeders. Lufthansa has already allowed 95 seat acft. Better gear up for battle. We know where they can fly them but now there will be added economic pressure to continue the outsourcing. All the majors had better start figuring out what rate they will be willing to fly these acft for.
09-18-2010, 07:03 AM
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The rest and scheduling rules will result in an apx 20% increase in staffing at the feeders to comply. This will exert further downward pressure on wages at these carriers and the claim they cannot operate profitably with 76 seats. The NPRM will be used as the segway into the next round of Scope demands to fly larger acft at the feeders. Lufthansa has already allowed 95 seat acft. Better gear up for battle. We know where they can fly them but now there will be added economic pressure to continue the outsourcing. All the majors had better start figuring out what rate they will be willing to fly these acft for.
Airline management has pushed hard for PBS and that is at best a 10% labor advantage, you can bet a 20% disadvantage is going to screw the regionals.
ALPA, APA, USAPA can now say, "Look they now legally have to work under the same work rules we contractually have, but you have to pay them a guaranteed profit margin and you have to pay for duplicate management/mx/dispatch/training etc. We can do this just as cheaply even if our wages and benefits are a little higher. The best part is you now have greater control over the product we provide since it's in house. If you haven't been paying attention recently Jet Blue and Southwest have been kicking our butts in customer service because we don't deliver a consistent product, this will help."
09-18-2010, 12:06 PM
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09-18-2010, 02:16 PM
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On another note... excellent letter by Sully!
09-19-2010, 07:43 PM
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I want to buy Sully a beer....hell, a whole keg!
I'm going to forward his letter to my Congressman and Senator. It would be very difficult for the politicos to ignore a superbly-crafted letter from a national hero.
Sully: you rock.
I'm going to forward his letter to my Congressman and Senator. It would be very difficult for the politicos to ignore a superbly-crafted letter from a national hero.
Sully: you rock.
09-19-2010, 08:21 PM
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Captain Paul Onorato (202) 624-3540
CAPA URGES FAA TO CHANGE NPRM ON FLIGHT AND DUTY TIME
Washington, D.C. (September 16th, 2010)—The Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations (CAPA) which represents over 28,000 commercial passenger and cargo pilots is concerned that portions of the Noticed of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) on Flight and Duty Time published on September 14th, 2010 may have a negative impact on flight safety.
While CAPA applauds the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for looking at a broad range of causal factors with regard to fatigue mitigation, CAPA’s Safety professionals have exhaustively analyzed the NPRM and feel the solutions proposed by the FAA often address industry economic issues to the exclusion of safety concerns.
Although the proposal places limits on how long pilots can be on duty based on time of day, it falls short of the mark to protect pilots against fatigue in many areas.
1) The rule proposes a 25% increase in the amount of flying a pilot can be expected to accomplish in a day.
2) For augmented (3 person) crews there is no specified limit on hours flown in a duty day. Using only total duty as a limit, three pilots could fly as much as 15 hours, a 25% increase over today’s limit of 12 hours.
3) The rule calls for a 9 hour rest period which still does not allow enough rest time for a pilot to get 8 hours of sleep. This minimum rest would apply following extended international flights as well, a major reduction compared to today.
4) Even this 9 hour rest period can be shortened once a week to 8 hours, further inducing fatigue.
Pilot fatigue is an ever present threat to the safety of traveling public and has been identified on the National Transportation Safety Board’s “Most Wanted” list of regulatory changes for two decades. Logical regulatory reforms must take precedence with government regulators over the economic interests of the airline industry. Captain Paul Onorato, president of CAPA says, “You cannot make a pilot less fatigued by requiring them to fly more hours”.
The proposed rule has caught the attention of industry safety experts. In a recent letter to Administrator Babbitt, Captain Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger states, “The stated purpose of the rulemaking process was to enhance the safety of the traveling public by reducing pilot fatigue.This NPRM does neither”.
The Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations is a trade association which represents over 28,000 professional pilots at carriers including American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, UPS, US Airways, Southern Air, ABX Air, Atlas Air Cargo, Kalitta Air, Polar Air Cargo, Arrow Air, Horizon Air, Gulfstream Air, Cape Air, Miami Air, Omni Air and USA 3000.
For more information, please visit: www.capapilots.org
FORWARD TO A FRIEND - ADD YOUR NAME TO CAPA'S ACTION E LIST
FORWARD TO A FRIEND - ADD YOUR NAME TO CAPA'S ACTION E LIST
HEY ALPA, Where you at! ? ! ? ! ? ! ? Crickets.... Crickets...
09-19-2010, 08:56 PM
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Oh, you didn't see the USA Today opinion piece today? Did you expect Prater to be against this???
Another view on air safety: A big leap forward for safety - USATODAY.com
"FAA has taken historic steps to combat pilot fatigue. Education and training, formal fatigue risk management systems, and a joint responsibility to ensure fitness for duty will take aviation safety a significant leap forward." John Prater
Another view on air safety: A big leap forward for safety - USATODAY.com
"FAA has taken historic steps to combat pilot fatigue. Education and training, formal fatigue risk management systems, and a joint responsibility to ensure fitness for duty will take aviation safety a significant leap forward." John Prater
09-19-2010, 09:06 PM
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Oh, you didn't see the USA Today opinion piece today? Did you expect Prater to be against this???
Another view on air safety: A big leap forward for safety - USATODAY.com
"FAA has taken historic steps to combat pilot fatigue. Education and training, formal fatigue risk management systems, and a joint responsibility to ensure fitness for duty will take aviation safety a significant leap forward." John Prater
Another view on air safety: A big leap forward for safety - USATODAY.com
"FAA has taken historic steps to combat pilot fatigue. Education and training, formal fatigue risk management systems, and a joint responsibility to ensure fitness for duty will take aviation safety a significant leap forward." John Prater
Reminds me of Age 65. "It's going to pass and I don't want to be on the losing side!"
09-19-2010, 09:09 PM
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Oh, you didn't see the USA Today opinion piece today? Did you expect Prater to be against this???
Another view on air safety: A big leap forward for safety - USATODAY.com
"FAA has taken historic steps to combat pilot fatigue. Education and training, formal fatigue risk management systems, and a joint responsibility to ensure fitness for duty will take aviation safety a significant leap forward." John Prater
Another view on air safety: A big leap forward for safety - USATODAY.com
"FAA has taken historic steps to combat pilot fatigue. Education and training, formal fatigue risk management systems, and a joint responsibility to ensure fitness for duty will take aviation safety a significant leap forward." John Prater
Prater has already lost my vote for re-election.
The more and more I read the positions of CAPA, the more and more I like what they stand for. ALPA has too many conflicts of interests.
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