cactiboss

Here is a little taste what is like to be associated with the usair east pretend union called usapa. I post this so our brothers at carriers with real unions have an idea of the despicable tactics of the east pilots, especially on labor day.
America west pilots are under a complete assault forced to pay dues to a union who uses those funds to sue the west and blatantly refuses to represent the west members at every turn. The following letter was distributed to the east pilots over an incident where usapa officers refuse to even visit their biggest domicile and the one's that do show up are ordered to say nothing.

"Several days ago USAPA EVP Gary Hummel announced to the President and Vice President his intention to attend the August 31 PHX domicile meeting. During the discussion that ensued Hummel was reminded that there was a plan in the works for all of the Officers to travel to PHX in the near future to meet with the pilots there. He was also informed that the preparation that was to precede this meeting was of paramount importance as the Officers have an absolute obligation to ensure that the legal effort surrounding the seniority battle is not compromised in any way whatsoever.

After the conversation it was understood that Hummel would not attend the PHX meeting, that he would follow the plan for all of the Officers to meet there, fully assembled and fully prepared. Therefore President Cleary and Vice President Mowrey were stunned to learn that not only did Hummel travel to PHX to attend the meeting but that he was also accompanied by Secretary Treasurer Rob Streble.

If you have seen any PHX crew news videos or videos of past trips made to PHX by USAPA Officers you have witnessed the extreme level of naked hostility and stubborn determination exhibited by the west pilots. This is such a well known phenomenon that it boggles the mind that any National officer would blindly attend a PHX domicile meeting off the cuff with absolutely NO PREPARATION and virtually no support. It is doubly perplexing that they would do so in blatant disregard of the counsel they received.

With the recent rulings from the Ninth Circuit Court and the subsequent dismissal of the Addington case you can be damn sure that the pilots in attendance at the PHX domicile meeting were **** bent on exploiting any opportunity to damage our chances for ultimate success. They are sure to have been well prepared and well coordinated. Questions would be asked and every answer recorded for future use. Absent any planning of their own and lacking any participation from USAPA legal or the Merger Committee Hummel and Streble had no chance whatsoever of avoiding serious damage to our cause.

They went to PHX fully intending to attend the meeting completely ignoring the counsel of the other officers and USAPA Legal. However after a strenuous effort to bring them to their senses they reluctantly agreed not to attend. Unfortunately, still failing to recognize the dangerously precarious nature of their excursion, they stated to the PHX Chairman that they were ordered by the President not to attend.

That is an absolutely perfect example of how carless their decision to go to PHX unprepared was. Nearly as problematic as it would have been for them to wade into the trap that the meeting represented is now the reaction of the PHX Chairman to Hummel’s and Streble’s proclamation that they were ordered not to participate. We are building momentum towards a victory in the fight for a fair seniority integration but the battle is hardly over. The very last thing we need is to hand the opposition ammunition to fire at us. Yet that is exactly what Hummel and Streble did. This behavior is so egregiously irresponsible that we should all be incredibly alarmed and outraged.

We must remain absolutely disciplined as we near the end of this fight and we cannot afford to allow their actions to go unchecked. Call your representatives, call every BPR member and compel your fellow pilots to do the same. Attend the BPR meeting the last week of September to voice your concern in person. Hummel and Streble need to be reprimanded for their blunder and convinced to avoid any further such activities. This must be done now before they are allowed to do damage that cannot be repaired."

johnso29

Ahhhhh.....unity.

And 'near the end'....really? Somehow I don't think this fight will ever end.

100indefinite

and just what makes today any different than yesterday or tomorrow when it comes to flinging poop? could'nt find another thread to attach this to?? or did you need another usapa crap thread on page one? this is getting old...

Justdoinmyjob

All I can say is that I thank God every day that we were able to "Keep Delta, My Delta." It sucks to see what amounts to open warfare amongst a pilot group. It also sounds like the animosity is so deep, that there never will be an amicible end result.

Pineapple Guy

That's what happens when you accept a decision to go TO binding arbitration then refuse to accept the decision OF that binding arbitration.

My heart goes out to the AWA guys, who have been caught up in this travesty.

brakechatter

Sorry, when you staple active pilots flying for the company for 17 years below 4 month pilots, I would cry foul as well.

The USAir pilots have a point, binding arbitration or not. I would hope the Delta pilots would cry foul at such a "travesty".

Nuff said.

Dashdog

I think you missed the point of Labor Day there 'boss.

Mods, please move this over to the 'Mergers and Aquisitions' forum to die a quick painless death.

Pineapple Guy

NOPE. What part of "binding" don't you get?

They could have negotiated a solution that they could live with. Once you accept binding arbitration, you have to accept the results, whether you like them or not, unless the arbitrator can be found to have acted illegally, which has not been even alleged much less proven.

Nuff said.

A320fumes

The windfall part.

Congrats East on killing the Nic Award. Hopefully you can undue the entire merger and let West be West by themselves.

Ottopilot

Not when the 4 month pilot had a better career expectation and relative senority before the merger. Sorry, DOH means nothing. America West pilots were better off without USair. Before and after the merger.