Alaska To Start Bellingham-Honolulu Flights
08-04-2010, 12:19 PM
#11
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I'd rather depart SEA on a HA 767 with 30-32" pitch (depending on A/C) and a free meal.
Lets look at G4's track record. I highly doubt those 75's will have reclining seats. That's tough on a 5 hour trip, and 6.5 even during winter months.
Lets look at G4's track record. I highly doubt those 75's will have reclining seats. That's tough on a 5 hour trip, and 6.5 even during winter months.
08-04-2010, 12:29 PM
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Seats?
Last I heard we were looking into stacking people up in those freight cans and loading them in with a forklift.
Rumor around AAY is that after we are done installing the blended winglets, we will be cutting in a palletized cargo door
Last I heard we were looking into stacking people up in those freight cans and loading them in with a forklift.
Rumor around AAY is that after we are done installing the blended winglets, we will be cutting in a palletized cargo door
08-04-2010, 12:37 PM
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HA717,
I agree... I'll be commuting on your 767's with a free meal... If you ever find yourself needing to get to Grand Forks or Fargo, I'd be happy to return the favor!
Heck, I'll even BUY you a bottle of water
BTW Thanks for all your support of the AAY pilots as we drive for ALPA. Even though a lot of our peeps don't "get it", I do and I appreciate the work your MEC brothers put in on our behalf.
I agree... I'll be commuting on your 767's with a free meal... If you ever find yourself needing to get to Grand Forks or Fargo, I'd be happy to return the favor!
Heck, I'll even BUY you a bottle of water
BTW Thanks for all your support of the AAY pilots as we drive for ALPA. Even though a lot of our peeps don't "get it", I do and I appreciate the work your MEC brothers put in on our behalf.
08-05-2010, 08:27 PM
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Just booked first class seats for january this morning. Only $500 each way. If you can handle coach it's something like $500 roundtrip. Sale started this morning. Allegiant is a total half @ss carrier. People love their cheap seats though so I'm sure they'll do well.
08-06-2010, 05:47 AM
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Would have been an easier struggle if the OC hadn't rolled over when we got the pay raise.
08-06-2010, 07:49 AM
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uhhh... The OC rolled over?
Why don't you pull your pants up and put down the bottle... So what, you USE the OC as leverage to get your raise, then you tear up your card, publicly announce how much ALPA sucks, and then accuse the OC of rolling over?
Why don't you pull your pants up and put down the bottle... So what, you USE the OC as leverage to get your raise, then you tear up your card, publicly announce how much ALPA sucks, and then accuse the OC of rolling over?
Originally Posted by grnclvrs
Don't kid yourself. Maury is more afraid of TWU, IAM, AFA, and IBT than he is of a weak association like ALPA. He knows that if the pilots unionize that the other work groups will follow. That is the only leverage that ALPA has at the company.
08-06-2010, 09:06 AM
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Last update from the alpa.org/allegiant page...
(Emphasis added)
There wasn't a peep from any of you since then until you started crying about Hawaii last week.
A Message from the Organizing Committee - Updated 3/8/2010
There wasn't a peep from any of you since then until you started crying about Hawaii last week.
08-06-2010, 11:06 AM
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Crying about Hawaii huh? I'm not about to publicly air our dirty laundry so I'll respond to that statement by saying any pilot from a carrier used to a Union and a CBA would be appalled by the AAPAG response to this scenario.
Apparently you, just as the reps themselves do, may not like the fact that I question the decisions they make (or don't make) with regard to our representation, but I'm here to tell you that many don't like the good ol boys club style outfit they operate, and I am merely the vocal one trying to shine a light upon it.
The organizing committee at the direction of ALPA slowed the pace of the drive temporarily because that's what the interest level post-January indicated was the best course of action. Not much different then the climate at jetBlue. Interesting though that you accuse me of using the ALPA drive as "leverage" the way you and your AAPAG cronies did. Is that how you justify your now obvious union busting mistake? By blaming the Organizing Committee for "rolling over"?
Don't worry
.... The OC will return when the time is right, but the last thing the OC is going to do is be used as "leverage" again. The Organizing Committee is here to provide a long term, viable solution that actually puts the future of this pilot group in its own hands (as opposed to the hands of a few check airman and the same old cast working with handshake agreements). You and I both know that life at Allegiant for the pilots is going to get worse in due time. AAPAG not only can't prevent that, but is actually contributing / (has contributed) to it. I suggest you look beyond your distaste of me personally and think about the best possible future for our pilot group. When the time comes again, think about the CBA, not me.
Apparently you, just as the reps themselves do, may not like the fact that I question the decisions they make (or don't make) with regard to our representation, but I'm here to tell you that many don't like the good ol boys club style outfit they operate, and I am merely the vocal one trying to shine a light upon it.
The organizing committee at the direction of ALPA slowed the pace of the drive temporarily because that's what the interest level post-January indicated was the best course of action. Not much different then the climate at jetBlue. Interesting though that you accuse me of using the ALPA drive as "leverage" the way you and your AAPAG cronies did. Is that how you justify your now obvious union busting mistake? By blaming the Organizing Committee for "rolling over"?
Don't worry
.... The OC will return when the time is right, but the last thing the OC is going to do is be used as "leverage" again. The Organizing Committee is here to provide a long term, viable solution that actually puts the future of this pilot group in its own hands (as opposed to the hands of a few check airman and the same old cast working with handshake agreements). You and I both know that life at Allegiant for the pilots is going to get worse in due time. AAPAG not only can't prevent that, but is actually contributing / (has contributed) to it. I suggest you look beyond your distaste of me personally and think about the best possible future for our pilot group. When the time comes again, think about the CBA, not me.
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