AA Recall Rumor
08-24-2010, 06:31 PM
#151
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If I had the time I would try to figure how short they will be this fall with the long haul flights they added. From what I have heard they are pulling the 777's from some short routes for the new flying that is coming this fall. Even a one for one swap would probably mean they need another 75 pilots to staff each new long haul route.
08-25-2010, 09:54 AM
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08-25-2010, 10:08 AM
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The idea behind the floor was to ensure that granting exceptions to the scope clause should be accretive, and not replace jobs on the AA seniority list.
08-25-2010, 10:13 AM
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The 7300 pilot floor is specifically exclusive of pilots acquired from other carriers, so pilots on the list from TWA nor Reno don't count. This should have been good for former TWA pilots, as it would have provided some leverage against continued outsourcing. Unfortunately, the arbitrator ruled that furloughed pilots count toward the pilot floor, which contradicts the intent of establishing the pilot floor to begin with.
The idea behind the floor was to ensure that granting exceptions to the scope clause should be accretive, and not replace jobs on the AA seniority list.
The idea behind the floor was to ensure that granting exceptions to the scope clause should be accretive, and not replace jobs on the AA seniority list.
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08-26-2010, 08:31 PM
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08-26-2010, 08:48 PM
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Not sure how it's great news for all UPS furloughed pilots, maybe the answer is in front of my face so I am missing it ? I am not in the bottom 180 nAAtive group, I was recalled to AA a few years ago and didn't take it....UPS being so stable and all
I am furloughed UPS but at this time am not planning on going back to AA, even if they do start to recall in a few months....hoping something else pans out...we will see....
08-28-2010, 04:53 AM
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09-01-2010, 02:06 PM
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"[B]ecause the Board reached its decision by construing the [the collective bargaining agreement], it is not the task of this court to correct the board's interpretation, even if that interpretation was 'badly mistaken,'" Judge Friedman wrote.
In other words gentlemen, this affirms what we already know. That arbitrator decisions can be bought.
09-01-2010, 03:26 PM
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The court affirmed the board's decision.
"[b]ecause the Board reached its decision by construing the [the collective bargaining agreement], it is not the task of this court to correct the board's interpretation, even if that interpretation was 'badly mistaken,'" Judge Friedman wrote.
In other words gentlemen, this affirms what we already know. That arbitrator decisions can be bought.
"[b]ecause the Board reached its decision by construing the [the collective bargaining agreement], it is not the task of this court to correct the board's interpretation, even if that interpretation was 'badly mistaken,'" Judge Friedman wrote.
In other words gentlemen, this affirms what we already know. That arbitrator decisions can be bought.
The APA's argument on many things (especially about the flow through) was self-serving and far fetched, but this was B.S.
It's a violation in the clearest terms, but the NMB is bent toward the interests of big business, which is why labor can forget about fair consideration.
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