1500hr / ATP for Part 121 rule passes
07-21-2010, 03:43 PM
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BINGO!!!!!!!!
07-21-2010, 03:50 PM
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This may serve to keep pilots IN the military. How many TACAIR guys have 1500 hours at the end of their commitment? That's why the airlines in the past have multiplied TACAIR time by a factor of 1.2 when hiring. If the law is a hard 1500 then there are military pilots who won't qualify. And if they have to stay beyond their initial commitment then they might as well do 20 and THEN go to the airlines.
07-21-2010, 04:11 PM
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After 2012 when pilots in the Legacy carriers start retiring in masses the regional’s will have massive attrition and this time the Pilot factories will need more time to build qualified pilots.
In the past when pilots were needed flight schools would ramp up operation and get pilots ready in 6 to 8 months. Now you will need them to become flight instructors for more than a year after they get their commercial.
In the past when pilots were needed flight schools would ramp up operation and get pilots ready in 6 to 8 months. Now you will need them to become flight instructors for more than a year after they get their commercial.
07-21-2010, 05:25 PM
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This may serve to keep pilots IN the military. How many TACAIR guys have 1500 hours at the end of their commitment? That's why the airlines in the past have multiplied TACAIR time by a factor of 1.2 when hiring. If the law is a hard 1500 then there are military pilots who won't qualify. And if they have to stay beyond their initial commitment then they might as well do 20 and THEN go to the airlines.
Regardless, I thought there was a military provision in the language? I could be wrong.
07-21-2010, 05:25 PM
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Very true. I wonder, does the maritime industry work like this?! Can I (assuming I have boatloads of money) pay my way into a first mate or Capt position on a passenger carrying vessel with no real experience? I don't think this is the case. Why do we have such loopholes in aviation? How about a Gross weight tier system for airplanes?
07-21-2010, 05:35 PM
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We need barriers of entry to this profession. This is a good thing and most other professional careers have them. You shouldn't be able to spend 6 months and buy your way into an airline pilot job. Once we get some real barriers to entry, hopefully regionals will cease to be cost effective, scope will go back to majors, and this career will start to regain some of what it once was.
This is something we absolutely need.
This is something we absolutely need.
07-21-2010, 05:42 PM
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Very true. I wonder, does the maritime industry work like this?! Can I (assuming I have boatloads of money) pay my way into a first mate or Capt position on a passenger carrying vessel with no real experience? I don't think this is the case. Why do we have such loopholes in aviation? How about a Gross weight tier system for airplanes?
07-21-2010, 05:42 PM
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We need barriers of entry to this profession. This is a good thing and most other professional careers have them. You shouldn't be able to spend 6 months and buy your way into an airline pilot job. Once we get some real barriers to entry, hopefully regionals will cease to be cost effective, scope will go back to majors, and this career will start to regain some of what it once was.
This is something we absolutely need.
This is something we absolutely need.
This is exactly right. Despite that the CA had more than 1500 hours and so did the FO, I know for a fact the CA did a "zero to hero" program. He might not have even been in the industry if 1500 was required to get on with a regional.
I want people in the industry that are willing to do the time and effort to get the hours required to get hired. Not pay for them...
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