ATCsaidDoWhat

Cliff:

That proposal is what was proposed by Embry Riddle and their lobbyists as a way to keep their revenue stream going. Why it was supported by ALPA is anyones guess. Everyone else, from the other unions, to Congress and the Colgan families wanted the 1500 hour rule. (The Senate had droped the hours only because Chuck Schumer, who had proposed the legislation, wanted 1500 hours, but could not get the support in the Senate..go figure)

Anyway, the Colgan families were REALLY ripped about the ABBI/Riddle/ALPA proposal. It wasn't until everyone else testified in favor of the 1500 hours did ALPA grudgingly go along.

Fishfreighter

Supply and demand. If this dries up the supply of people qualified to fly Part 121, perhaps pay/work rules will improve.

asims33

Thats a given, but i only hope the industry doesnt crumble before then.

Lets face it, terrible economy, training on a downward spiral, euro airlines opening cadet programs....FAA possibly losing funding. This bill came at a bad time



And while many can argue the good and bad parts of it, no one can hide the pilot shortage coming. And anyone who is stupid enough to say there isnt gonna be one needs to open their eyes. I was just at ATP in florida, their student enrollment has dropped astronomically since 08' and continues to go down.




Personal opinion...

The FAA will lighten these requirements through a loop-hole that congress provided them with in the clause that says:

(d) Credit Toward Flight Hours- The Administrator may allow specific academic training courses, beyond those required under subsection (b)(2), to be credited toward the total flight hours required under subsection (c). The Administrator may allow such credit based on a determination by the Administrator that allowing a pilot to take specific academic training courses will enhance safety more than requiring the pilot to fully comply with the flight hours requirement.


Big schools like ATP Riddle MTSU ect... will be able to enact courses in their training to lower these standards. My guess is in 3 years you will see 700-800 hour guys getting hired. Just my 2cents though.

Rama

I'm still waiting for the pilot shortage that's been predicted for the last 20 years.

Nevets

No, actually I made the exact point I was trying to make. Good bye.

Yeah, I think this was the original intent and not a loophole. But its going to be AABI accredit four year institutions that will be able to get the credit, not ATP or any of the other puppy mills. I also think the FAA will allow them to substitute up to 700 hours towards an ATP with part 121 ops and SIC limitations.

iPilot

Considering the families of the Colgan crash managed to get an act of Congress passed, methink the FAA skimping out in the rule-making process will go over like a fart in a spacesuit. They won't stop until they get this done right. Thank goodness.

weekendflyer

So when does this dumb rule come into effect?

FlyJSH

If I had a dollar for each newbie who asked this....
How about reading any one of the three threads on this subject since the question has been answered several times in each.

Or better yet, read the bill (now law) yourself

Read The Bill: H.R. 5900 - GovTrack.us


Seems to me anyone unwilling to do a little research is probably unwilling to work hard enough to get an ATP.

contrails

I like the new rule. So will you, in the future.

It goes into effect right now, with the requirements going into effect in a couple years.

FlyJSH

Actually, three years from date of signing.