Mason32

how about the excellent example of aeronautical decision making of raising the flaps and dumping what little lift was left.... how about not being experienced and assertive enough to recognize when you were flying with a "weak" other pilot, and then failing to say "hey, your airspeed is low" BEFORE the stall event occurrs.... that is what a PILOT monitoring does.

Mason32

Apparently you have never read a Nall report.... they are free from AOPA.org Go read one.


hours do translate into safety levels.... even the aviation insurance industry is aware of it, which is why low time pilots pay much more for their insurance. Even plugging around the pattern in a C152, you will make more decisions than you ever will in the right seat of an RJ.... and when in the C152 bopping around the pattern if something does go amiss, or if the weather does turn foul.... when you look to your left all you will see is your own reflection... no Captain to make the decision for you.

jiminmem

Exactly. If hour levels have no relationship to decision making and safety, why do insurance companies mandate experience levels for high performance aircraft.

Try to get insurance in a Baron with 300 hours, you'll hear the agent laughing at you a 100 miles away.

gptjjbmj

Actually the Army did a statistical study and found that there were cycles of experience: if my memory serves me correctly there was and increased danger between 500-750 hours then again at 1500hrs and then again at 3000hrs. Not an oppinion but a scientific study.

gptjjbmj

I have 1000 hours of turbine helicopter time from the Army there are two Regionals that I could not even submit an application to because they would not recognize my flight time. I flew Blackhawks a twin turbine helicopter that would require a type rating civilian side, yet insurance companys prefer I flew a Cessna 150, that they would count.

Zapata

I disagree. Instructing has definitely prepared me for 135/121 by developing my decision making and CRM perspective as well as adding diversity of flying in my background. No to mention, being and instructor really does develop basic stick and rudder skills through not only having to teach, but to let the student take their mistakes as far as possible to maximize learning without endangering the aircraft. Besides, the actual flying in the 135/121 world is the easy part. Almost anyone can be taught to fly a turboprop at 250 to the marker or fly approaches in a jet....it's just not that hard of a transition. The real challenges are ultimately in decision making.

I believe that someone with a CFI background has more to add to 135/121 flying than someone without.

Too many people dismiss instructing as flying umpteen hundred hours in the practice area or the pattern. There is much more to it.

BTW; My background includes instructing as well as flying checks

Zapata

How is the safety level raised when any Joe Blow can buy block time to get up to the minimums? Flying when one wants to at their leisure is much different that flying when one "has to".

AtlCSIP

You never HAVE to fly. Takeoffs are ALWAYS optional (Remember, you are the PIC who has to make a DECISION every time you take off, regardless of the rules you fly under). Landings are ALWAYS mandatory!

Fly Safe!

LeeFXDWG

Air Force saw similar results many years ago at about the same milestones. Particularly with instructors and their comfort envelope.

Usually, you re-modified your sight picture after letting a student go a bit too far but not far enough you couldn't recover.

It all comes down to becoming complacent and too comfortable. Both can step up an bite you when you least expect it.

Frats,
Lee

Zapata

Well, of course, that goes without saying. That is why I put "has to" in quotes. In addition to that, I thought the context of my post would suffice. To further clarify; When one buys block time, they can fly whenever they want to. When one has a job, they "have to" fly, even when it is an inconvenience. Of course they can delay or cancel a trip based safety(which wasn't in the context of the post), but not for the same reasons that a block time buyer can....i.e., it's a little bumpy, or my butt hurts, etc.

Yes, there is a difference.