Holy Smokes: UAL hits turbulence
07-21-2010, 09:16 AM
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Does anybody know if the seatbelt sign was on or off. I know that while you're seated they're supposed to be on, but I can see on a long flight how people could be up moving around a bit. If they were seated and not wearing their seatbelts, then I have very little sympathy, or if the seatbelt sign was on and they were ignoring it.
07-21-2010, 09:53 AM
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Does anybody know if the seatbelt sign was on or off. I know that while you're seated they're supposed to be on, but I can see on a long flight how people could be up moving around a bit. If they were seated and not wearing their seatbelts, then I have very little sympathy, or if the seatbelt sign was on and they were ignoring it.
07-21-2010, 04:06 PM
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07-21-2010, 04:28 PM
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Totally agree, I just don't get it. I was on a flight from SEA to ATL last week and we were in some moderate turbulence and people were ignoring the Captain (who made a pretty stern announcement to sit down immediately) and walking up and down the aisle. I was just waiting to see someone to do a face plant on the ceiling. Wear your freaking seatbelt and you won't get hurt.
In the case of severe turbulence, the first impact may be their head against the ceiling. The second impact could be them coming down on top of a seated passenger, seriously injuring someone other than themselves.
Ingnorance and selfishness all rolled into one.
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07-21-2010, 04:44 PM
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- 8+ hour flights, not once is the seat belt sign turned off.
- Flight attendants prepare meals, do a drink and/or meal service, congregate in the galley, use the lav, and sit in their jumpseats unbelted when the seatbelt sign is on (
). - Pilots personal seatbelt usage is not observable from the cabin
That is why people don't wear their seatbelt all the time while seated, and ignore the sign even when it is on. If crew members (PIC controlling the switch and FA's in the cabin, in view of the passengers) don't show the passengers they take seatbelt wearing seriously, why should the passengers?
While I don't blame the specific crew members of this UA flight, they are part of the group responsible for the lackadaisical seatbelt use by passengers, like virtually all of the readers of this forum.
07-21-2010, 05:09 PM
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- 8+ hour flights, not once is the seat belt sign turned off.
- Flight attendants prepare meals, do a drink and/or meal service, congregate in the galley, use the lav, and sit in their jumpseats unbelted when the seatbelt sign is on ().
- Pilots personal seatbelt usage is not observable from the cabin
While I don't blame the specific crew members of this UA flight, they are part of the group responsible for the lackadaisical seatbelt use by passengers, like virtually all of the readers of this forum.
Additionally, your line of thinking doesn't make sense. If people see the FAs stopping the service to take their seats, then you should be able to figure out that you should have your seatbelt on.
I've deadheaded in uniform several times and people sitting right next to me refused to turn off their cell phones -- even after I politely asked them several times. Was I or any of the FAs using our cell phones? No.
People today do what they want to do, even when told not to do so. They don't care about the risks they pose to others.
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07-21-2010, 05:26 PM
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No sympathy.
Capt. made an announcement to sit down so whatever happened after is on those who CHOSE to ignore the Capts. announcement.
Did.nt some pax try to sue a carrier because of severe turbulence some years ago ?
Those who chose to ignore the announcement and were injured won't make the same mistake again .
Fred
07-21-2010, 05:37 PM
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Sometime I would like to see who was hurt the most the folks that did not have there seatbelts on or the poor guy he landed on. If the seatbelt sign is on and someone chooses not to where it he not only endangers himself but anyone around him.
07-21-2010, 07:08 PM
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- 8+ hour flights, not once is the seat belt sign turned off.
- Flight attendants prepare meals, do a drink and/or meal service, congregate in the galley, use the lav, and sit in their jumpseats unbelted when the seatbelt sign is on ().
- Pilots personal seatbelt usage is not observable from the cabin
While I don't blame the specific crew members of this UA flight, they are part of the group responsible for the lackadaisical seatbelt use by passengers, like virtually all of the readers of this forum.
As for the FA's, I agree. But in this case it seems the FA's were asked to buckle and they did. SO, if the passengers are used to seeing the FA's up and talking and not belted and this time they ARE belted, then one would think the passengers would get a clue that they might be in for a bit of a rough ride and buckle up.
You can't cure stupid. That is the real issue here. People just have no clue why they even need to wear a seatbelt because in a car they are used only for a crash. It is the third dimension that passengers do not understand until they truly experience it by hitting their head on the luggage bin.
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