Delta Sells Compass and Mesaba
07-15-2010, 10:06 AM
#442
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07-15-2010, 10:35 AM
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Check,
There is a MEC Bulletin on the D-ALPA board which explains what happened on Tuesday and it is exactly what I'm hearing from radio traffic as well.
The MEC Administration briefed our Reps on what happened in the transaction. The Company has not made any proposals (meaning status quo I guess). If the Company makes a proposal, then we have a process to follow to negotiate.
There is a MEC Bulletin on the D-ALPA board which explains what happened on Tuesday and it is exactly what I'm hearing from radio traffic as well.
The MEC Administration briefed our Reps on what happened in the transaction. The Company has not made any proposals (meaning status quo I guess). If the Company makes a proposal, then we have a process to follow to negotiate.
"Status quo" means the flow ends and the number of 76 seat RJs reverts to 85.
Process that.
Compass and Mesaba have been sold. They are no longer "affiliates". The Mesaba flow ends now (subject to "meet and confer"). The RJs revert to 85.
The Compass language is less clear but it doesn't matter.
Can anybody show me where it says something different in the contract?
07-15-2010, 12:27 PM
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I have to agree with this. I was shooting for NWA as much as anyone and never heard that Compass was the only way to NWA. Even if I did hear that I would have never believed it, nor could I believe it by understanding how the flow worked.
I keep seeing some of the same Compass guys posting this over and over like it'll become a fact if they say it enough, but it's a bunch of BS or they're extremely ignorant.
I keep seeing some of the same Compass guys posting this over and over like it'll become a fact if they say it enough, but it's a bunch of BS or they're extremely ignorant.
Guess it depends on when you applied and interviewed. For me and many of the first Compass pilots(approx. 60-80) NWA did not have its application window open when we started at Compass. Please explain again how my rational is flawed when NWA was NOT hiring or plaining on hiring when the most senior of us went to Compass? Hired 06/07. NWA's app window opened when? I know for fact it was sometime in late july or aug. of 07'. Am i wrong?
07-15-2010, 12:33 PM
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Guess it depends on when you applied and interviewed. For me and first and many others hired at Compass (approx. 60-80) NWA did not have its application window open when we started at Compass. Please explain again how my rational is flawed when NWA was not hiring or plaining on hiring when the most senior of us went to Compass? Hired 06/07. NWA's app window opened when? I know for fact it was sometime in late july or aug. of 07'. Am i wrong?
This is again why I think we should honor the flow for the guys on the CPZ list now.
The biggest thing is the contractual implications of the sale of CPZ, which may have some surprises in there.
07-15-2010, 12:47 PM
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I appreciate the Delta guys trying to hold the line against any further scope erosion. My only issue is with those saying screw the flow guys at compass and mesaba. Why would someone wish us harm? By all accounts fight for your contract but why some want to throw us to the wolves is beyond me.
The MEC's and LEC's are working through some pretty complex languages, intent and consquences as we speak. I believe things will be honered, modified and ended all in due time.
07-15-2010, 01:00 PM
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Vik,
If the flows get canceled, it is a management decision.
Pilots' opinions are just personal opinions ... don't read too much into individual opinions.
You are right to wait and see.
If the flows get canceled, it is a management decision.
Pilots' opinions are just personal opinions ... don't read too much into individual opinions.
You are right to wait and see.
07-15-2010, 01:02 PM
#450
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I appreciate the Delta guys trying to hold the line against any further scope erosion. My only issue is with those saying screw the flow guys at compass and mesaba. Why would someone wish us harm? By all accounts fight for your contract but why some want to throw us to the wolves is beyond me.
The MEC's and LEC's are working through some pretty complex languages, intent and consquences as we speak. I believe things will be honered, modified and ended all in due time.
The MEC's and LEC's are working through some pretty complex languages, intent and consquences as we speak. I believe things will be honered, modified and ended all in due time.
Because they have something to gain.
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