Delta Sells Compass and Mesaba
07-15-2010, 01:17 AM
#431
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I have yet to meet a captain who wants any Compass pilot to flow up. This is a general statement. There are exceptions. I for the most part only fly with fNWA pilots. They look at Compass as a whole as DC-9 replacements and a slap in a face by the company and union. They look at the Compass pilots as replacement workers and want no part of them. It's worse because the union promised somewhere along the line that NEWCO would never be started.
And you are wrong about NEWCO. NEWCO would have flown all 100 seats and less. The ability to keep it at (36) 76 seat jets is not a minor victory in the face of BK.
07-15-2010, 02:13 AM
#432
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When NWA HR calls for an interview and the pilot informs them that they cannot come that week because they wont be back from montreal (CP training) until monday and the hr person states o your with compass o let me call you back and never does or answer e-mails. I think it kinda means they wont interview CP guys
Its funny how the flow was so important to the junior guys Dec 08 and most of 09 and know that it might work the other way people dont care it exsist.
Its funny how the flow was so important to the junior guys Dec 08 and most of 09 and know that it might work the other way people dont care it exsist.
07-15-2010, 02:14 AM
#433
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That's funny... Thanks!
07-15-2010, 07:31 AM
#434
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Now that times are good, we're no better than last weeks trash. When the benefit is swinging our way, its time to pull up the ladder.
I think its a little short sighted to get rid of furlough protection just yet. JMHO.
07-15-2010, 07:50 AM
#435
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If we roll over and send the signal to DAL / ALPA that its okay for this thing to go away right when it was time to deliver, then what are we telling them about everything else they promise the pilots of DAL, CPS, and every other ALPA airline??
Eliminating this thing sends the message that it's okay to utilize the 'dangling carrot' method of operation. Thats bull.
Eliminating this thing sends the message that it's okay to utilize the 'dangling carrot' method of operation. Thats bull.
07-15-2010, 07:51 AM
#436
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Pretty simple really, this will fall along seniority lines. As you move more junior down the list at DAL, there are more and more who hope the spirit of the contract (insert loud guffaw here for my naivete) is honored. Saying you're no better than last week's trash is pretty strong, and not true at all. Most reasonable pilots here want the contract honored, but the sale is a done deal and the union, being run by the senior for the senior, who saw varying degrees of benefit to the flow, aren't likely to be too sympathetic. I suspect they will kill the flow, which I am told is allowable as part of the contract due to the sale, after honoring it for those eligible to flow during this first wave of hiring. JMWAG
07-15-2010, 08:11 AM
#438
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Many valid points all around, but nothing as been said by any of the parties involved in this. My suggestion is not to come to conclusions over this until there is AT LEAST some sort of direction given by one of those parties.
07-15-2010, 09:27 AM
#439
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WE are the parties involved, yet the MEC apparently plans to keep us in the dark.
Hopefully they will let us know when they have decided our future.
07-15-2010, 09:52 AM
#440
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Check,
There is a MEC Bulletin on the D-ALPA board which explains what happened on Tuesday and it is exactly what I'm hearing from radio traffic as well.
The MEC Administration briefed our Reps on what happened in the transaction. The Company has not made any proposals (meaning status quo I guess). If the Company makes a proposal, then we have a process to follow to negotiate.
Not very exciting given the circumstances, but remember Occam's Razor ... if I may paraphrase ... "the simplest explanation is usually correct."
My GUESS is that at least some pilots will flow. Delta needs to hire and August is two weeks away.
There is a MEC Bulletin on the D-ALPA board which explains what happened on Tuesday and it is exactly what I'm hearing from radio traffic as well.
The MEC Administration briefed our Reps on what happened in the transaction. The Company has not made any proposals (meaning status quo I guess). If the Company makes a proposal, then we have a process to follow to negotiate.
Not very exciting given the circumstances, but remember Occam's Razor ... if I may paraphrase ... "the simplest explanation is usually correct."
My GUESS is that at least some pilots will flow. Delta needs to hire and August is two weeks away.
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