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Old 07-14-2010, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Frisco FO
Unfortunately, industry average has gone down over the past 10 years. Most airlines are making less now than 10 years ago. We are now moving in the correct direction again and hopefully the NMB will release more airlines in the very near future (assuming their release of Spirit is successful)
So we are going to vote in a TA that doesn't reach pay parity with a depressed industry average? Cool, sign me up.

What do you mean by a successful release? A release is the result of unsuccessful bargaining, and is granted by the NMB, a neutral party. How does a neutral party claim success if the nuclear option was used?
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Like someone, somewhat, alluded to already; It aint rocket science... it is just negotiations and I'll add, it's not just about the money but QOL: This is what the contract is for about 80%+ of the members. GREAT JOB N.C.
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Like someone, somewhat, alluded to already; It aint rocket science... it is just negotiations and I'll add, it's not just about the money but QOL: This is what the contract is for about 80%+ of the members. GREAT JOB N.C.
Just wondering, what is the source for the 80% statistic?
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I have 10 friends, 8 of those friends believe QOL is more important than pay. 8 out of 10 = 80%.

Vote how you will. I am as excited to see the results of the vote as I was the night before we went on strike.

Some people say that we will have new volunteers step up if this TA is rejected and the MEC steps down. I believe we will but I also believe that they will be steam rolled over by NK and Indigo.

Back to square one guys. I'm a yes vote. Not out of fear but because I think it is a decent contract "For Me".
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I have 10 friends, 8 of those friends believe QOL is more important than pay. 8 out of 10 = 80%.

Vote how you will. I am as excited to see the results of the vote as I was the night before we went on strike.

Some people say that we will have new volunteers step up if this TA is rejected and the MEC steps down. I believe we will but I also believe that they will be steam rolled over by NK and Indigo.

Back to square one guys. I'm a yes vote. Not out of fear but because I think it is a decent contract "For Me".
I was glad to hear Nelson say the MEC/NC wasn't going anywhere in case the TA failed.
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Originally Posted by shiftwork
Like someone, somewhat, alluded to already; It aint rocket science... it is just negotiations and I'll add, it's not just about the money but QOL: This is what the contract is for about 80%+ of the members. GREAT JOB N.C.
stop self-gratifying yourself.
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes
stop self-gratifying yourself.
Not a problem I'm happy for the group as a whole.... unlike yourself that is self loathing. Get over it and enjoy your life/career and you'll be much happier but hey.... thanks for the advice
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes
stop self-gratifying yourself.
If anyone needs to "self-gratify" themself I would say it is SourGrapes or at least find someone to help him out

Go have a beer, on the board walk, and think about how your going to spend your days off with that extra cash.
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Originally Posted by Kubota
If anyone needs to "self-gratify" themself I would say it is SourGrapes or at least find someone to help him out

Go have a beer, on the board walk, and think about how your going to spend your days off with that extra cash.

He will have 3 years to think about it until that 'extra cash' starts rolling in. That is if he is still coherent flying 90 hours a month.

Extra cash - days off... you guys crack me up
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