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Old 06-17-2010, 11:01 PM
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I posted this on another forum but as a former F/A trying to break into this stupid rat-race figured I would place it here also.

These shenanigans stop right here if the Spirit FA's grow a pair and shut this airline down for another two weeks. No more will non-striking workers be used as a pawn by management for fear of retaliation. Lead by example ladies and gentleman. DON'T let the ploy go unpunished. Take a two week vacation and enjoy management squirming over their lost profit because of their incompetence to manage.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:21 AM
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and what type of unity do the XJT pilots have to not pick up time or fly extra if others are layed off?....or just what do you mean by "soft time".
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Old 06-18-2010, 07:31 AM
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and what type of unity do the XJT pilots have to not pick up time or fly extra if others are layed off?....or just what do you mean by "soft time".
Thank you, words out of my mouth, I wouldn't be proud to rack 100+ hrs while my co-workers were furlough. But then again, MY Money, My Job, My Contract, My-My-MY....

Thinking that way OUR Spirit Strike would have never worked!

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Old 06-18-2010, 07:31 AM
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and what type of unity do the XJT pilots have to not pick up time or fly extra if others are layed off?....or just what do you mean by "soft time".
I answer that one...NONE! Lack of unity at XJT is an ever-growing epidemic and it's repulsive. I walked with the Spirit pilots on Wednesday and the entire flight home, I was sick to my stomach and the realization that the pilot group I'm part of would never pull this off in a million years. We can't get more than 30% to vote in any union issue or do a contract survey. As long as the company keeps letting open time be picked up at 150%, the "Me, Me, Me" pilots will keep grabbing at it and no more pilots will be recalled or upgraded.
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Old 06-18-2010, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jhugz
I posted this on another forum but as a former F/A trying to break into this stupid rat-race figured I would place it here also.

These shenanigans stop right here if the Spirit FA's grow a pair and shut this airline down for another two weeks. No more will non-striking workers be used as a pawn by management for fear of retaliation. Lead by example ladies and gentleman. DON'T let the ploy go unpunished. Take a two week vacation and enjoy management squirming over their lost profit because of their incompetence to manage.
Good point, taking the two weeks off, may turn on a permanent Vac. Since you wont have a job to come back to.

Too bad you are not a NK FA (or are you?), you could be missing on the 200% and 250$ to go back and do what you were schedule to do in the first place.
Choose your battles, this stupid action by the company is not your battle, use this as a bargaining chip on you contract negotiations.
Get the airline running then organized to get the perks.

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Old 06-18-2010, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor
Kingjay, 6 on RSV I presume, I am a JR fo at acy, my lines are 4-5 on 4 OFF.

I know about AE first hand, and after 6 yrs I can tell you that sucked! Specially if you were commuting. Even as a Sr FO.
6 years would have been a top half FO, but certainly not "senior." You were at the top of the bottom 60%... not too bad a place to be, even if it was at Eagle.
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:02 AM
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Can someone please post details of the new TA?
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:19 PM
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No, because they have not been sent to us. All we've seen are rumors on the internet.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:25 PM
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so if the TA is voted down, do you go back on strike, or do you have to wait to be released again?
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:32 PM
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An open letter to Ben Baldanza:

Start working on your resume...again. You may be able to hold the title you have, but you won't be able to lead. Frank Lorenzo's board found this out, John Dasburg's board found this out and so will your board. When they come to that conclusion, you'll need that updated resume. The idea of charging for carry-on bags ended up in congress - very embarrassing. Now you've badly miscalculated in your attempt to break a union. You sir, are a massive liability.

I look for good in all outcomes however. It's been 20 plus years since Frank Lorenzo's termination, and 12 years since Dasburg's. My hope is that the next iteration of airline CEO's will realize that labor is not an adversary - they ARE your company. Hopefully your actions will have taught them more than they could ever have learned from their MBA professors.

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