Delta is hiring now
05-12-2010, 08:10 PM
#242
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
Well there was a meeting at the end of last week with the head of mec's at DCI carriers, delta and moak included. I assure you that I do not spreed rumor. My record on this forum is not to instigate, the message and order given by moak too the head of all DCI carrier's. The classes were said to be more of a trickle then the larger lump sum classes. The amount of pilots to be brought in this year was the 300 number. Next year sounds like the spicket may finally open up for long term. You have no reason to believe me but before you dismiss me as someone stirring the pot, you should check with moak. Time will tell but check with moak before telling someone "um no"
Lets hope nothing derails the progress this industry is making.
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05-12-2010, 08:31 PM
#243
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: M88 B
Posts: 399
1) more former nwa pilots may retire early
2) fewer then 50 percent returning from furlough but maybe holding off as they can pick what class they would like to be placed in as long as it is this year.
3) 2011 hiring, obviously variables apply, but will likely be greater then the 300 hired or brought back this year and could be closer to the 60 per month
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05-12-2010, 08:42 PM
#245
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Alright, somebody with a brain illuminate me. Why is there some apparent prejudice against the civilian pilot from the military trained pilot. Does someone have a superiority complex?
This military pilot welcomes any flowthrough, off the street, furlough bypass, or oddball night freight non-turbine pilot to the rolls of DAL, first ones on me and if you dont drink I'll buy dinner.
Hiring is a good thing - Rejoice!
This military pilot welcomes any flowthrough, off the street, furlough bypass, or oddball night freight non-turbine pilot to the rolls of DAL, first ones on me and if you dont drink I'll buy dinner.
Hiring is a good thing - Rejoice!
05-12-2010, 08:49 PM
#247
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,042
I'm against the flow. I will be open about it. I want it honored for the current Compass pilots because they were promised it. I would like to see it end for all future Compass pilots. I've talked to pilots who have interviewed at Compass and Delta or Northwest. Every single one of them has the said the Compass interview was a joke compared to the other two. When you only pay your pilots $23/hour with no giant raises in sight, you are not going to attract the best candidates. There are more pilots at Compass without degrees than the Compass pilots on this board are leading on. IT IS NOT IN SINGLE DIGITS. It is closer to 50 or about 15% of their pilot group. Personally, I never would have flowed down to Compass. The threat of me flowing down alone might have prevented my furlough though. There was a time at Compass when they started hiring flight instructors with 800 hours of total flight time. ALPA stepped in to put a stop to this very quickly, but the pilots hired with this low time and no degree were allowed to keep their job. They will be Delta pilots some day without even being competitive for a regional job. I feel that every single 121 pilot for all airlines should have a degree so take what I say with a grain of salt.
05-12-2010, 08:49 PM
#248
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 737n/FO
Posts: 667
You always post good info. The briefing I received was 2011 may include upwards of 60 pilots per month. International destinations will require a big uptick since all 757 and 767 will be online requiring more pilots to staff the international ops. Left feeling a few things .
1) more former nwa pilots may retire early
2) fewer then 50 percent returning from furlough but maybe holding off as they can pick what class they would like to be placed in as long as it is this year.
3) 2011 hiring, obviously variables apply, but will likely be greater then the 300 hired or brought back this year and could be closer to the 60 per month
1) more former nwa pilots may retire early
2) fewer then 50 percent returning from furlough but maybe holding off as they can pick what class they would like to be placed in as long as it is this year.
3) 2011 hiring, obviously variables apply, but will likely be greater then the 300 hired or brought back this year and could be closer to the 60 per month
05-12-2010, 08:51 PM
#249
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 737n/FO
Posts: 667
Alright, somebody with a brain illuminate me. Why is there some apparent prejudice against the civilian pilot from the military trained pilot. Does someone have a superiority complex?
This military pilot welcomes any flowthrough, off the street, furlough bypass, or oddball night freight non-turbine pilot to the rolls of DAL, first ones on me and if you dont drink I'll buy dinner.
Hiring is a good thing - Rejoice!
This military pilot welcomes any flowthrough, off the street, furlough bypass, or oddball night freight non-turbine pilot to the rolls of DAL, first ones on me and if you dont drink I'll buy dinner.
Hiring is a good thing - Rejoice!
05-12-2010, 08:53 PM
#250
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
I'm against the flow. I will be open about it. I want it honored for the current Compass pilots because they were promised it. I would like to see it end for all future Compass pilots. I've talked to pilots who have interviewed at Compass and Delta or Northwest. Every single one of them has the said the Compass interview was a joke compared to the other two. When you only pay your pilots $23/hour with no giant raises in sight, you are not going to attract the best candidates. There are more pilots at Compass without degrees than the Compass pilots on this board are leading on. IT IS NOT IN SINGLE DIGITS. It is closer to 50 or about 15% of their pilot group. Personally, I never would have flowed down to Compass. The threat of me flowing down alone might have prevented my furlough though. There was a time at Compass when they started hiring flight instructors with 800 hours of total flight time. ALPA stepped in to put a stop to this very quickly, but the pilots hired with this low time and no degree were allowed to keep their job. They will be Delta pilots some day without even being competitive for a regional job. I feel that every single 121 pilot for all airlines should have a degree so take what I say with a grain of salt.
As you have said, they put a stop to that. Also, watch who runs CPS hiring from this point forward. The hires will be qualified.
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