Delta is hiring now
05-12-2010, 02:42 PM
#231
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Someone had mention the 4 year degree. It applies to Mesaba pilots but NOT Compass pilots as we did not have that in our letter. I know that Compass has very few pilots without the 4 yr. degree and THEY will be allowed to Flow.
order of priority
1) Furloughed Delta/NWA Brothers/Sisters
2) Compass 20 per Month (not class)
3) Mesaba 9 per month
4) Other DCI carriers
5) All other pilots who meet Delta's criteria (including Compass and Mesaba. No one will be excluded because they are at a airline with a flow.
Delta's hiring plan from my MEC connection is as follows. 30/class and 2 classes per month for a total of 60 pilots per month. Compass can hold back upto 90 days (which i assume they will since the first 40 pilots or 2 months worth are where much of the Leadership is at LCA's Etc.
This scenerio is likely to play out.
After furloughed pilots are back Compass will be allowed the first 20, mesaba the next 9. Compass will hold back these 20 pilots (who will get seniorty numbers) Delta still needs the class of 30 so they will move on to the mesaba 9 pilots then need to hire 21 from outside. The second class that month... 30 more pilots will come from outside the Compass/Mesaba flow. Therefore, the chance exsists that 51 of the 60 pilots in the first months class will be from outside of Compass.
Now in the second month the totals reset and Compass again gets the first 20 pilots, Mesaba the next 9. and the first class of the month would be 1 from outside the flow companies. The second class of that month will be filled entirely of people from outside the flow carriers.
This is dependent on Delta running 2 classes of 30 per month and as of yesterday that was the plan.
order of priority
1) Furloughed Delta/NWA Brothers/Sisters
2) Compass 20 per Month (not class)
3) Mesaba 9 per month
4) Other DCI carriers
5) All other pilots who meet Delta's criteria (including Compass and Mesaba. No one will be excluded because they are at a airline with a flow.
Delta's hiring plan from my MEC connection is as follows. 30/class and 2 classes per month for a total of 60 pilots per month. Compass can hold back upto 90 days (which i assume they will since the first 40 pilots or 2 months worth are where much of the Leadership is at LCA's Etc.
This scenerio is likely to play out.
After furloughed pilots are back Compass will be allowed the first 20, mesaba the next 9. Compass will hold back these 20 pilots (who will get seniorty numbers) Delta still needs the class of 30 so they will move on to the mesaba 9 pilots then need to hire 21 from outside. The second class that month... 30 more pilots will come from outside the Compass/Mesaba flow. Therefore, the chance exsists that 51 of the 60 pilots in the first months class will be from outside of Compass.
Now in the second month the totals reset and Compass again gets the first 20 pilots, Mesaba the next 9. and the first class of the month would be 1 from outside the flow companies. The second class of that month will be filled entirely of people from outside the flow carriers.
This is dependent on Delta running 2 classes of 30 per month and as of yesterday that was the plan.
05-12-2010, 03:22 PM
#232
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AirApps only counts PIC time that you are acting as PIC. (Not sole manipulator of the controls) So basically it figures Dual Rec. + PIC + SIC = total time. If you didn't log PIC while you were getting instruction the numbers should add up just fine.
05-12-2010, 03:26 PM
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Like I said, I'm not applying, I was just curious how it would work out.
05-12-2010, 04:52 PM
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Someone had mention the 4 year degree. It applies to Mesaba pilots but NOT Compass pilots as we did not have that in our letter. I know that Compass has very few pilots without the 4 yr. degree and THEY will be allowed to Flow.
order of priority
1) Furloughed Delta/NWA Brothers/Sisters
2) Compass 20 per Month (not class)
3) Mesaba 9 per month
4) Other DCI carriers
5) All other pilots who meet Delta's criteria (including Compass and Mesaba. No one will be excluded because they are at a airline with a flow.
Delta's hiring plan from my MEC connection is as follows. 30/class and 2 classes per month for a total of 60 pilots per month. Compass can hold back upto 90 days (which i assume they will since the first 40 pilots or 2 months worth are where much of the Leadership is at LCA's Etc.
This scenerio is likely to play out.
After furloughed pilots are back Compass will be allowed the first 20, mesaba the next 9. Compass will hold back these 20 pilots (who will get seniorty numbers) Delta still needs the class of 30 so they will move on to the mesaba 9 pilots then need to hire 21 from outside. The second class that month... 30 more pilots will come from outside the Compass/Mesaba flow. Therefore, the chance exsists that 51 of the 60 pilots in the first months class will be from outside of Compass.
Now in the second month the totals reset and Compass again gets the first 20 pilots, Mesaba the next 9. and the first class of the month would be 1 from outside the flow companies. The second class of that month will be filled entirely of people from outside the flow carriers.
This is dependent on Delta running 2 classes of 30 per month and as of yesterday that was the plan.
order of priority
1) Furloughed Delta/NWA Brothers/Sisters
2) Compass 20 per Month (not class)
3) Mesaba 9 per month
4) Other DCI carriers
5) All other pilots who meet Delta's criteria (including Compass and Mesaba. No one will be excluded because they are at a airline with a flow.
Delta's hiring plan from my MEC connection is as follows. 30/class and 2 classes per month for a total of 60 pilots per month. Compass can hold back upto 90 days (which i assume they will since the first 40 pilots or 2 months worth are where much of the Leadership is at LCA's Etc.
This scenerio is likely to play out.
After furloughed pilots are back Compass will be allowed the first 20, mesaba the next 9. Compass will hold back these 20 pilots (who will get seniorty numbers) Delta still needs the class of 30 so they will move on to the mesaba 9 pilots then need to hire 21 from outside. The second class that month... 30 more pilots will come from outside the Compass/Mesaba flow. Therefore, the chance exsists that 51 of the 60 pilots in the first months class will be from outside of Compass.
Now in the second month the totals reset and Compass again gets the first 20 pilots, Mesaba the next 9. and the first class of the month would be 1 from outside the flow companies. The second class of that month will be filled entirely of people from outside the flow carriers.
This is dependent on Delta running 2 classes of 30 per month and as of yesterday that was the plan.
1) Furlough/return
2) Compass
3) Mesaba
4) Military
5) If any slots remain they will bring in off the street civilian.
Also if you think for one second that they are not going to "finesse" the numbers to minimize forced flows, you are kidding yourself. I am not in support of this in the least but I guarantee they don't like this the way NWA did. Compass/Mesaba will not flow more than 90 combined.
They have had classes of 50 in the past. A class on the 1st and the 15Th of each month with 50 per class and there is your 300 in three months. Total from Compass 60 and the total from Mesaba 27. Again not right but I wouldn't put it past them.
Last edited by Imapilot2; 05-12-2010 at 05:04 PM.
05-12-2010, 05:13 PM
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I find it ironic that I hear a lot of "DAL pilots do not like the flow" talks but I bet if DAL had furloughed, or came close to it after the merger, they would have been all for the flow back..
So now that the wheels have turned, they are all against the flow because nobody should be worthy of being an almighty DAL pilot without going through the selection/interview ...
just an observation from all the talks on this and other boards..
So now that the wheels have turned, they are all against the flow because nobody should be worthy of being an almighty DAL pilot without going through the selection/interview ...
just an observation from all the talks on this and other boards..
05-12-2010, 05:17 PM
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I find it ironic that I hear a lot of "DAL pilots do not like the flow" talks but I bet if DAL had furloughed or came close to it after the merger they would have been all for the flow back..
So now that the wheels have turned, they are all against the flow because nobody should be worthy of being an almighty DAL pilot without going through the selection/interview ...
just an observation from all the talks on this and other boards..
So now that the wheels have turned, they are all against the flow because nobody should be worthy of being an almighty DAL pilot without going through the selection/interview ...
just an observation from all the talks on this and other boards..
05-12-2010, 06:19 PM
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Um no. In the past Delta was almost exclusively Military. As of late they are 50/50.
1) Furlough/return
2) Compass
3) Mesaba
4) Military
5) If any slots remain they will bring in off the street civilian.
Also if you think for one second that they are not going to "finesse" the numbers to minimize forced flows, you are kidding yourself. I am not in support of this in the least but I guarantee they don't like this the way NWA did. Compass/Mesaba will not flow more than 90 combined.
They have had classes of 50 in the past. A class on the 1st and the 15Th of each month with 50 per class and there is your 300 in three months. Total from Compass 60 and the total from Mesaba 27. Again not right but I wouldn't put it past them.
1) Furlough/return
2) Compass
3) Mesaba
4) Military
5) If any slots remain they will bring in off the street civilian.
Also if you think for one second that they are not going to "finesse" the numbers to minimize forced flows, you are kidding yourself. I am not in support of this in the least but I guarantee they don't like this the way NWA did. Compass/Mesaba will not flow more than 90 combined.
They have had classes of 50 in the past. A class on the 1st and the 15Th of each month with 50 per class and there is your 300 in three months. Total from Compass 60 and the total from Mesaba 27. Again not right but I wouldn't put it past them.
Last edited by Vikz09; 05-12-2010 at 06:29 PM.
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