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05-06-2010, 09:40 AM
#141
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Kind of what the name implies. People would call out sick for a trip so they'd have a long string of days off, sort of like an extra vacation week. At my airline, they'd plan it so they wouldn't have more than 4 sick calls within a rolling 12 month period (a 5th sick call would get you a call from the CP). As soon as the oldest sick call dropped off, they'd call in sick for another "sickation." It basically amounted to an extra week off every 3 months.
They'd also be the guys who showed up sick because they couldn't afford a sick call when they really needed it.
Interviewers know this abuse exists and that's the pattern they look for when they're going through your logbooks. They have no problems with you calling in sick if it's legit. They just don't want you abusing it.
They'd also be the guys who showed up sick because they couldn't afford a sick call when they really needed it.
Interviewers know this abuse exists and that's the pattern they look for when they're going through your logbooks. They have no problems with you calling in sick if it's legit. They just don't want you abusing it.
05-06-2010, 10:18 AM
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And I'm never going to fly past 6 days, I'm just illustrating a common situation. Much like how broken airplanes are continuously passed onto the pilots. As I said, "we'll see how it goes." Hold your horses buddy before you go calling the Feds, I'm not at day 6 yet.
05-06-2010, 10:24 AM
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So Delta doesn't have any work rules and flights ops are based on pilot exploitation? What I'm saying is that at a few regional airlines, things are bad, really bad, probably in a way that might be tough for you to fully understand without living it.
And I'm never going to fly past 6 days, I'm just illustrating a common situation. Much like how broken airplanes are continuously passed onto the pilots. As I said, "we'll see how it goes." Hold your horses buddy before you go calling the Feds, I'm not at day 6 yet.
And I'm never going to fly past 6 days, I'm just illustrating a common situation. Much like how broken airplanes are continuously passed onto the pilots. As I said, "we'll see how it goes." Hold your horses buddy before you go calling the Feds, I'm not at day 6 yet.
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05-06-2010, 11:45 AM
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I was asked this at my interview. I had called in sick 5 times the previous year. The interviewer said that was a little excessive. I brought up the point that I had over 900 flight hours logged that year. He said, "good point."
05-06-2010, 01:57 PM
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Well this conversation is disappointing for me, yet from DL's perspective completely understandable and something I would agree with some time ago when things were better. Heck, I agree with it now, but it's bittersweet, i guess.
Unfortunately there are a few airlines out there where sick calls are the only way to actually have some sort of minimal personal life.
There are airlines, right now, where pilots have 7-9 days off, no commuting policy and nothing in the bid but non-commutable trips. There is no ability to swap/trade/drop trips, and a vacation bidding system so heinous it actually costs the pilot net days off over the bid and is therefor just a minimal "placeholder" for time off. Sick calls are almost necessary if you miss a commute, and so you don't pile a plane into the dirt and/or never see your children again because your wife took off for Albuquerque and a better life.
I'm working 10 days in a row, right now, without the required 24hrs off after 6 days and multiple 14hr+ duty days. I've brought it up, no answer yet. We'll see how it goes. This is the reality.
My only hope is that some day interviewers will realize how far degraded some regionals have become in comparison to their own very decent work rules, unless the entire industry goes in this exploitative direction.
Ok, time to end the whinewhinemoanmoan.
Unfortunately there are a few airlines out there where sick calls are the only way to actually have some sort of minimal personal life.
There are airlines, right now, where pilots have 7-9 days off, no commuting policy and nothing in the bid but non-commutable trips. There is no ability to swap/trade/drop trips, and a vacation bidding system so heinous it actually costs the pilot net days off over the bid and is therefor just a minimal "placeholder" for time off. Sick calls are almost necessary if you miss a commute, and so you don't pile a plane into the dirt and/or never see your children again because your wife took off for Albuquerque and a better life.
I'm working 10 days in a row, right now, without the required 24hrs off after 6 days and multiple 14hr+ duty days. I've brought it up, no answer yet. We'll see how it goes. This is the reality.
My only hope is that some day interviewers will realize how far degraded some regionals have become in comparison to their own very decent work rules, unless the entire industry goes in this exploitative direction.
Ok, time to end the whinewhinemoanmoan.
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