Delta bases
07-31-2013, 05:55 PM
#52
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Do you have any idea how much "power" Lead Line Check Pilots have? I have a friend that is one whom I haven't talked to in a while. Is it of value to get in contact?
07-31-2013, 06:06 PM
#53
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08-01-2013, 10:41 PM
#54
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I don't know why they haven't bid out if they want out. There are vacancies that went unfilled in DTW and ATL. So they must not want out that bad.
08-01-2013, 10:51 PM
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08-10-2013, 09:40 AM
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Here is a rough rundown on Base seniority, based on what 2010 hires can hold. This is from the projected category list from the *March* AE. I will try to update from the July AE when its out and time/life permits.
Back in March, with roughly 11750 pilots on the list, here is where the roughly 230 2010 hires sit:
58 ATL M88 (the ATL Plug is on the M88, and has 6 guys junior to him in NYC)
19 ATL 717 (plus about 30 unfilled spots)
3 CVG M88
52 NYC 7ER (roughly 23% of 2010 hires are in this category. The 7ER plug has 17 guys junior to him in the system. )
13 NYC 73N
17 NYC 320
42 NYC M88
(The balance were on some type of leave.)
Here is how many people you had to have junior to you (roughly) to hold a given base (Again, per the March AE projected category list.)
DTW (73N) – @270
(This changed on the last AE, with several 2010 hires getting 717 DTW, and about half of those spots going unfilled)
MSP (M88) – @350
LAX (73N) – @530
SLC (73N) - @400 (and yes, the plug on the 73N is junior to the 320 plug)
SEA(7ER) -@1260
Like I said, a few things changed with the June & July AE’s. A handful of 2010 hires were bumped off the 7ER. Most of the Western bases have gotten slightly more senior. Quite a few 2010 hires were awarded 717 DTW, and there are a number of unfilled 717 slots in DTW, and lots in ATL that will go to recalls and newhires. Again, I’ll update when the new list comes out.
Back in March, with roughly 11750 pilots on the list, here is where the roughly 230 2010 hires sit:
58 ATL M88 (the ATL Plug is on the M88, and has 6 guys junior to him in NYC)
19 ATL 717 (plus about 30 unfilled spots)
3 CVG M88
52 NYC 7ER (roughly 23% of 2010 hires are in this category. The 7ER plug has 17 guys junior to him in the system. )
13 NYC 73N
17 NYC 320
42 NYC M88
(The balance were on some type of leave.)
Here is how many people you had to have junior to you (roughly) to hold a given base (Again, per the March AE projected category list.)
DTW (73N) – @270
(This changed on the last AE, with several 2010 hires getting 717 DTW, and about half of those spots going unfilled)
MSP (M88) – @350
LAX (73N) – @530
SLC (73N) - @400 (and yes, the plug on the 73N is junior to the 320 plug)
SEA(7ER) -@1260
Like I said, a few things changed with the June & July AE’s. A handful of 2010 hires were bumped off the 7ER. Most of the Western bases have gotten slightly more senior. Quite a few 2010 hires were awarded 717 DTW, and there are a number of unfilled 717 slots in DTW, and lots in ATL that will go to recalls and newhires. Again, I’ll update when the new list comes out.
08-12-2013, 07:57 AM
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And that's after 3 years of stagnation and only 200 or so hired in 6 years of mostly stagnation. Continuous hiring (if it ever finally occurs) is an entirely different situation. MSP, CVG, SLC and even SEA/LAX spots will go to new hires in the coming years. A few in class, and a lot more after the 1 year freeze depending on AC. Constant hiring makes bidding magic happen and dramatically "unstacks" the stovepipe that stagnation creates.
08-17-2013, 11:39 AM
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July AE basing update
Here is a breakdown of where 2010 hires are projected to sit, based on the July AE bid:
There were roughly 11710 pilots on the list as of August, with roughly 225 2010 hires. Here is their Distribution:
ATL M88 FO = 55 (+10 unfilled spots)
ATL 717 FO = 15 (+40 unfilled spots)
CVG M88 FO = 3
DTW 717 FO = 15 (+35 unfilled spots) (This is where the current plug for Delta Air Lines is projected to be per the latest bid)
NYC 7ER FO = 45 (still roughly 20% of 2010 hires in this category)
NYC 737 FO = 12
NYC 320 FO = 12
NYC M88 FO = 40
And for the bases 2010 hires can’t hold, here is roughly how many people junior to him/her (system wide) the current base’s plug has, and the aircraft he/she is on.
LAX = (737) 595
MSP = (M88) 345
SEA = (7ER) 1775
SLC = (320) 625
There were roughly 11710 pilots on the list as of August, with roughly 225 2010 hires. Here is their Distribution:
ATL M88 FO = 55 (+10 unfilled spots)
ATL 717 FO = 15 (+40 unfilled spots)
CVG M88 FO = 3
DTW 717 FO = 15 (+35 unfilled spots) (This is where the current plug for Delta Air Lines is projected to be per the latest bid)
NYC 7ER FO = 45 (still roughly 20% of 2010 hires in this category)
NYC 737 FO = 12
NYC 320 FO = 12
NYC M88 FO = 40
And for the bases 2010 hires can’t hold, here is roughly how many people junior to him/her (system wide) the current base’s plug has, and the aircraft he/she is on.
LAX = (737) 595
MSP = (M88) 345
SEA = (7ER) 1775
SLC = (320) 625
10-25-2014, 04:26 PM
#59
New Hire
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Bases as of October 2014
Would love to see an update of current aircraft/bases and seniority of aircraft per base. With a ton of new hires, I realize things are changing fast but would love a starting point. Thanks!
10-25-2014, 05:13 PM
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NYC 717: #2/30 (based on AE - category isn't active for November)
NYC 320: 40/100 - 40%
ATL 717: 130/250 - 52%
NYC M88: 60/100 - 60%
DTW 717: 40/60 - 67%
NYC 73N: 80/120 - 67%
DTW 73N: 60/85 - 71%
ATL 320: 90/120 - 75%
ATL M88: 480/610 - 79%
CVG M88: 50/60 - 83%
DTW 7ER: 150/170 - 88%
DTW 320: 160/180 - 89%
ATL 73N: 260/280 - 93%
ATL 7ER: 530/560 - 95%
NYC 7ER: 350/360 - 98%
The following categories don't have anyone at this seniority level yet, but I believe some <1yr pilots were awarded them in the past couple AEs. Obviously, those pilots will be the plug or the deputy plug.
CVG 73N
LAX 73N
MSP 320
MSP M88
SLC 73N
SLC 320
Moral of the story is no surprise: If you want to be high-seniority, choose a 717 or something out of NYC.
Corollary to the moral: If you want to fly international, but from reserve for quite a while, pick the 7ER.
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