Ual/cal Scope
05-01-2010, 09:29 AM
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Look at the range the 70 seaters have now. What airplane has it replaced? UAL has put crj-700s on old 737 runs where mainline flew. So I do think there is a difference between 70 and 50 seats.
The 50's can barely make it above 30k and have all kinds of weight issues. They should be "feed" not destination flights: I.e. Sbn-Ord, pia-Ord not Sfo-Sat, or Lax-Dfw.
The 50's can barely make it above 30k and have all kinds of weight issues. They should be "feed" not destination flights: I.e. Sbn-Ord, pia-Ord not Sfo-Sat, or Lax-Dfw.
05-01-2010, 10:19 AM
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I non reved on SkyWest yesterday from LAX to SLC and back, my first time since my September furlough. My wife and daughter without any prompting from me both commented on how small the CRJ700 was and how they were both uncomfortable on an aircraft that size. I was a 2000 hire at United and initially flew the Shuttle. All of the flights United had going into SLC while I was there yesteday, LAX, SFO, DEN were RJ's, they all used to be 737's. I will comment that the flight attendants on SkyWest were all young, female attractive and had a better attitude than most of their counterparts at United.
05-01-2010, 02:09 PM
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05-01-2010, 02:17 PM
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How SkyWest does it, I'd like to know. I wish not only the majors, but the other "regionals" could take note.
05-02-2010, 03:45 AM
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There's actually another prevailing belief as to why United has 1450 furloughs vs the 147 at Continental. Scope was the relief valve, but many, if not most at United, believe that Tilton sacrificed his own in order to induce a merger.
05-02-2010, 03:51 AM
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Yes, it does matter, but that isn't the only reason. To assume it is would be a major mistake. Beware of "easy answers".
Your points are the most likely to be true. Airline managers at American, Southwest, Airtran and other competitors are hoping the CAL/UAL pilots hold firm to the idea of turning back the clock to 1978.
05-02-2010, 04:15 AM
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Why would that be hard to pull off? UAL scope is capped at 70 seats. The only way around that would be a code share agreement which would quickly end up in court.
05-02-2010, 05:39 AM
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My question is if CAL went to United's work rules how many jobs would that create? would be interested in knowing, but I don't have both contracts.
05-02-2010, 05:53 AM
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Would you mind sharing with us what you think about the disparity regarding the furloughees?
CAL = 3% furloghees/total Pilot group
UAL = 19%
I'd say the 70 seat scope has plenty to do with the large difference.
05-02-2010, 06:14 AM
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If CAL went under UAL's work rules, how would it "create" jobs??? If UAL's rules were going to do so, how come not a single UAL furlough has been brought back. Didn't the the most recent furlough just take place as recent as this past fall/winter of 2009??? I have not heard of any 'new'/or recently changed rules that would all of a sudden make this happen either??
If I'm missing something, I'd really like to know the reasoning for this fact (no sarcasm in this question).
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