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Old 01-28-2010, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
Rumor has it they're opening a PDX base in June. That should get some of the furloughees back.
It might. But it might not, either.

Staffing levels depend on total number of block hours flown by the fleet. If block hours go up then a greater number of pilots will be needed. If not, then status quo. Ultimately this could be a case of a reshuffled staff deck from one base to another.

Another point to consider is seat capacity per airplane. Rumor has it that Alaska management plans to replace smaller -400's with larger -800's. Zero additional pilots will be needed on a one-to-one basis if true. Alaska seat miles grow without the added cost of hiring and upgrades, producing zero demand for pilots; staff stagnation.

Hopefully a hybrid growth strategy will seize new opportunities that leads to an increase in total block hours leading to the return of furloughees.
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by stix'nstrings
Hopefully a hybrid growth strategy will seize new opportunities that leads to an increase in total block hours leading to the return of furloughees.
Hopefully some retirements will too!
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Old 01-29-2010, 04:08 PM
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Seems to me that if Alaska Air Group had a full-year 2009 net income of $121.6 million and a net loss of $135.9 million in 2008, then they are still potentially 14.3 million in the red. I don't know the rest of the numbers, but one profitable period in time does not necessarily make a company strong enough to recall. We, as an industry, need Alaska to be a strong company so that when those pilots do go back to work, they don't have to endure furlough again!
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Old 01-29-2010, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stix'nstrings
You're right about that. It is Alaska's niche. No doubt they would fly between these city pairs if money could be made with present ETOPS fleet. Unfortunately they can't do it profitably in a 737-800, the only ETOPS qualified variant in the fleet. I forget the number of blocked seats, but it's quite large due to the short runway at SNA.

How's Continental doing it? Is it with an ETOPS -700? I'd be surprised if it was any other type of 737.
Yup, 737-700's with the 2000lbs/engine thrust upgrade. Still has 34 seats blocked according to our reservation system on both SNA-HNL and GNL-OGG.

Be interesting to see if it works.
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Seems to me that if Alaska Air Group had a full-year 2009 net income of $121.6 million and a net loss of $135.9 million in 2008, then they are still potentially 14.3 million in the red. I don't know the rest of the numbers, but one profitable period in time does not necessarily make a company strong enough to recall.
From Wall Street Journal,
"The group on Thursday reported fourth-quarter profit of $24.1 million, or 67 cents a share, compared with a year-earlier loss of $75.2 million, or $2.08 a share. Revenue rose 2.3% to $846.1 million. Last year was the sixth in a row in which the company produced a profit when items such as hedging gains and restructuring costs were stripped out.
The group has one of the industry's strongest cash-balance positions, which helped it mount a successful fuel-hedging program and is allowing the switch to a single type of aircraft for Alaska Airlines and Horizon, improving efficiency and lowering costs.
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