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Old 01-17-2010, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas Sink,

There is opportunity for AMR out of the JAL mess, but they need to move to capitalize on it.

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The leadership at AA isn't smart enough to do anything except to line their own pockets.
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Old 01-17-2010, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
First, grab ALK and SEA. Remove one of the "corners" from DALs strategy.
The way it was explained to me was that we have a tight agreement with Alaska for 10 years to provide feed. Part of that was we have right of first refusal if anyone makes an offer for AK, or there is a huge penalty to be paid if someone buys them and tries to end the contract.

Of course, they could have been full of it too....
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Old 01-17-2010, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
The way it was explained to me was that we have a tight agreement with Alaska for 10 years to provide feed. Part of that was we have right of first refusal if anyone makes an offer for AK, or there is a huge penalty to be paid if someone buys them and tries to end the contract.

Of course, they could have been full of it too....
AA buys Alaska.....takes their cash, they file for bankruptcy, and then cancels the contract......i should try out this management thing
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Old 01-17-2010, 06:52 PM
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AA buys Alaska.....takes their cash, they file for bankruptcy, and then cancels the contract......i should try out this management thing
Part of the agreement of buying them is the acknowledgment that you will pay the penalty fee. It's called a poison pill. Just like the successorship language in most PWAs.
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let's all hope this new JV with JAL is not like the one DELTA signed with AIR FRANCE...if you look at the JAN 2010 skyguide edition you will note that AIR FRANCE has 17 frequencys DAILY between PARIS and USA...DELTA only has 5....2 of those on a 757. heck delta does not even fly between new york and paris!!! the most popular city pair on earth.
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by astrojet
. heck delta does not even fly between new york and paris!!! the most popular city pair on earth.
While I agree with you on the JV, I thought NYC-Heathrow was the most popular city pair.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by astrojet
let's all hope this new JV with JAL is not like the one DELTA signed with AIR FRANCE...if you look at the JAN 2010 skyguide edition you will note that AIR FRANCE has 17 frequencys DAILY between PARIS and USA...DELTA only has 5....2 of those on a 757. heck delta does not even fly between new york and paris!!! the most popular city pair on earth.
You also have to count the KLM frequencies, because AF and KLM are considered to be a "single carrier" for the JV "EASK's"

I agree, we should def. have at least SOME of the JFK-CDG flights, although by JV, the corporation gets an equal share of the flight no matter whose metal operates the flight(which does us no good as pilots in a direct sense, but only indirectly as working for a company that isn't loosing money so we all still can have a job).
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:24 PM
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One of the things that we do not see is the amount of premium traffic that we are gaining from this JV. It does not directly benefit the pilots but it give the corporation a steady stream oh high priced traffic. Add to it we take the passenger from the AF flight and connect him on DAL metal.
Also the PIT and RDU to CDG flights would not work if AF was not there to connect our passengers to other cities we do not serve beyond Paris.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
One of the things that we do not see is the amount of premium traffic that we are gaining from this JV. It does not directly benefit the pilots but it give the corporation a steady stream oh high priced traffic. Add to it we take the passenger from the AF flight and connect him on DAL metal.
Also the PIT and RDU to CDG flights would not work if AF was not there to connect our passengers to other cities we do not serve beyond Paris.
Someone please send this to APA. Maybe acl65 can knock some sense into them
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Also the PIT and RDU to CDG flights would not work if AF was not there to connect our passengers to other cities we do not serve beyond Paris.
Just to clarify, but it's only PIT-CDG. The RDU flight was postponed because of the downturn. Don't know if they will ever do it. I hope since I live in RDU.
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