Foreign Jumpseats
07-03-2006, 02:40 AM
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If you are talking about jumpseats on the flight deck, then in BA, unless you are a current BA crew member with BA ID, sadly it is no longer allowed.
UK security regulations, imposed after 9/11 prohibit it, so I imagine the same must apply to VS.
A great shame, as in happier times, on a previous BA type, I carried several US pilots on the flight deck jump seat. They had all paid for a passenger ticket, but for some reason preferred to sit up front!
UK security regulations, imposed after 9/11 prohibit it, so I imagine the same must apply to VS.
A great shame, as in happier times, on a previous BA type, I carried several US pilots on the flight deck jump seat. They had all paid for a passenger ticket, but for some reason preferred to sit up front!
07-04-2006, 09:30 AM
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Virtually no non-US/Canadian carriers accept jumpseaters in the cockpit without a paid ticket, be that a revenue or non-revenue ticket. So, there's no free rides outside the US or Canada.
There's lots of stories about people doing it, even today, but they usually fail to mention that a ticket was lifted by the agent at the podium.
There's lots of stories about people doing it, even today, but they usually fail to mention that a ticket was lifted by the agent at the podium.
07-04-2006, 10:40 AM
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I have been in many foreign jumpseats (all before 911) but have always needed a ticket. I’ve been on Sabena, British, SAS, Braeten Safe, Virgin, Mexicana, Olympic, Gulf air, Cathay, and just about every, national or larger, american carrier. I've seen all types of professionalism but the only crew to ever really concern me was a Southwest crew flying in to RNO. Still, you can't argue with SW's great safety record. They have some good sticks flying there. Maybe it's because they fly soooo many legs.
I tried to jumpseat on the Concorde one time. I walked up in my puddle jumper uniform and asked to jumpseat to London. I was told in a very polite, thick English accent, "Sorry sir, there is NO non-revenue on the Concorde." I didn't really expect to get on but you never know.
But back to the topic....I don’t know if it is allowed today but my experience is you need a tix to even get near the airplane. In London you won’t even know which gate to go to let alone be able to get to the gate unless you have a tix. Just another example, the glory days are over.
I tried to jumpseat on the Concorde one time. I walked up in my puddle jumper uniform and asked to jumpseat to London. I was told in a very polite, thick English accent, "Sorry sir, there is NO non-revenue on the Concorde." I didn't really expect to get on but you never know.
But back to the topic....I don’t know if it is allowed today but my experience is you need a tix to even get near the airplane. In London you won’t even know which gate to go to let alone be able to get to the gate unless you have a tix. Just another example, the glory days are over.
07-04-2006, 02:09 PM
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Mike, you mean the carrier in Norway called "Braathens SAFE"? Wow, that must have been a while ago! They've been absorbed into SAS. I flew a couple of their B-767s.
Agreed about foreign jumpseats---it isn't the same as it is here in US, just that foreign carriers allow passengers into the flight deck during flight. I've sat in jumpseats on Singapore, Cathay Pacific, Swissair, Virgin Atlantic, BA and Aer Lingus. Each time I had a ticket, however.
Agreed about foreign jumpseats---it isn't the same as it is here in US, just that foreign carriers allow passengers into the flight deck during flight. I've sat in jumpseats on Singapore, Cathay Pacific, Swissair, Virgin Atlantic, BA and Aer Lingus. Each time I had a ticket, however.
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