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Old 01-14-2010, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by F9er
Out of curiosity, what do the RAH pilots feel would be fair?

Do you think a senior RAH pilot should be able to go straight to the left seat of an airbus?

**deleted my personal opinion, because it really doesn't matter what I think, it will never happen**

Nothing is going to be fair in this integration. But to answer your question. No, I don't think any current CA at RAH should be able to hold CA on the airbus. My guess is that there will be a fence in place for some time anyway, and no one will be able to get bumped out of seat or base as a result of integration.
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Old 01-14-2010, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rightseat Ballast
Let me clarify that... All of us hold what I call "temporary" positions until the seniority integration is complete. At that point, the outcome of the integration will dictate what we hold. F9 pilots may lose seats through re-bid, seniority, or lose nothing at all. I may lose my seat, base...all of it. A midwest pilot may end up in the Airbus, a Frontier pilot in my seat, and I could end up on the 145 or Q400. Who knows. But so long as the question of seniority isn't answered or answerable, I consider all assignments and status to be temporary. Call it semantics. As of now, there are not guarantees. I don't expect to get some Airbus seat, but it is possible that an arbitrator could give Midwest pilots a seniority that would give them access to the Airbus, hence a recently recalled Frontier pilot may only have a temporary stint in the Airbus.

I don't know who told you this, but it is completely incorrect. There will be no flush bid when all is done. Do you really think the company will allow this to happen. The entire operation would shutdown due to training events. No bump of seat or equip, and that came straight from the integration committee. Please get your info correct before making us look like idiots.
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Old 01-14-2010, 10:31 AM
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Anyone else catch that Sean Menke has announced his resignation from RAH?

Sean Menke resigns from Frontier owner Republic - The Denver Post
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:16 AM
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Just more reason its time to abandon ship.
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:38 AM
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Sorry to the folks working at F9
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratherbeoffwork
I don't know who told you this, but it is completely incorrect. There will be no flush bid when all is done. Do you really think the company will allow this to happen. The entire operation would shutdown due to training events. No bump of seat or equip, and that came straight from the integration committee. Please get your info correct before making us look like idiots.


First off: the company has no say in the outcome of the integration.

Second: how do you pretend to know how the arbitrator(s) will rule?
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Old 01-14-2010, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratherbeoffwork
I don't know who told you this, but it is completely incorrect. There will be no flush bid when all is done. Do you really think the company will allow this to happen. The entire operation would shutdown due to training events. No bump of seat or equip, and that came straight from the integration committee. Please get your info correct before making us look like idiots.


Doesn't Republic have a history of a lot of training events...


Republic Sees Higher Attrition Throughout 2007
From Aviationweek.com 2007 August

Executives at Republic Airways Holdings (RAH) predict annualized pilot attrition for 2007 will not fall below previously forecast levels of 20% even though the company saw a slight drop during the second quarter.

Company CEO Bryan Bedford told analysts yesterday that annualized attrition levels dropped down to 16% during the second quarter, but RAH is still predicting overall levels of 20% for 2007 since United, US Airways, and most likely Continental and Delta will be hiring in the back half of the year.
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Old 01-14-2010, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by F9er
Out of curiosity, what do the RAH pilots feel would be fair?

Do you think a senior RAH pilot should be able to go straight to the left seat of an airbus?

**deleted my personal opinion, because it really doesn't matter what I think, it will never happen**
Doesn't really matter what we think either. It's all about the ICs.
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Old 01-14-2010, 06:25 PM
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Doesn't Republic have a history of a lot of training events...
No. With multiple fleet types they do all they can to avoid it.
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Old 01-15-2010, 05:19 AM
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[quote=YXnot;744342]First off: the company has no say in the outcome of the integration.

Delta had a clause that it did not have to accept the arbitrators result if it was too costly for them.
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