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01-11-2010, 09:46 PM
#181
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
Again, anything I can to do to legally hurt RAH and BB's bottom line I will do. Cut on a tire? Change it. Missing a static wick? I would feel better if it were fixed. Bird strike? Airplane will not move until a complete bird strike inspection is performed. That means opening up the cowling on each engine and a borescope perfomed. One approach and then its off to the alternate. APU running entire flight? Safe thing to do in my opinion especially at night. MEL question? That could take thirty minutes or more to figure out. No single engine taxi outs. Twenty minute warm up on all engines on first flight of the day. If that means giving up a spot in line for twenty or thirty aircraft, so be it. Five hundred pounds above min required for takeoff. If not, will probably need to return to gate for more. Again, just to be safe. Irate passenger? Return to the gate to solve the problem. These are just a few of the items I will practice with my fellow RAH crewmembers. Won't it be fun?
Take a minute to sit back, calm down, have a beer, and seriously think about the consequences your actions could have not only on you, but on others. How could you possibly want that kind of blood on your hands?
Just a few words for thought. The reality of the situation is that someone acting in that manor won't last long. So when you're back in the same spot what did you gain and what do you have to show for it? That spotless record of yours might look a little tarnished after being fired. In this market why give up what job security you have for nothing?
01-11-2010, 09:48 PM
#182
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
This message board doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It will be years before any Midwest pilot flies a Midwest painted airplane if ever again. There were only 120 something Midwest pilots active at the time of the merger. The arbitrator will probably screw the Midwest pilots and make 60 of them captains. The rest will not even bother coming to Republic for $37/hour. In a few years, Republic will have massive lay-offs as it's go-alone plan fails. Oil is heading back towards $150/barrel. Republic will not be able to withstand it. Then the Republic pilots "only trying to support a family" will be able to experience the Midwest pilots' frustrations first-hand.
01-11-2010, 09:53 PM
#183
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 127
You must be big into Teamsters. I don't demand anything. This is only a webboard to share information and opinions.
I do think (my opinion) the Republic EXCO could and should have taken actions to support another union... or is this really about a fight between two national unions. If labor can't give token support to other labor groups under attack we are in big trouble.
Maybe I missed something.
Tell me what Republics EXCO did to support the pilot union at Midwest?
I do think (my opinion) the Republic EXCO could and should have taken actions to support another union... or is this really about a fight between two national unions. If labor can't give token support to other labor groups under attack we are in big trouble.
Maybe I missed something.
Tell me what Republics EXCO did to support the pilot union at Midwest?
I don't know if they did anything, but Im sure by your pilots speaking on the news about how substandard we are, and how inexperienced we are, that we felt zero brotherhood coming from you. I hope the Midwest brand dies so we can all put this to rest. There are more F9 planes flying out of MKE now anyway.
01-12-2010, 03:06 AM
#185
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 312
There are a few things you need to consider Rat. No one here works for the fun of it. They might enjoy their jobs but none the less it's still their job. It's their way of supporting themselves and their family. Are you really willing to do what you can to hurt the job security of thousands of other individuals? Do you really think it's worth that? What of the Midwest guys coming over looking for a means to continue to support their family are you seriously wanting to take that away? There's no need for this nonsense. If you come here then be professional. Show up, do your job, go home, hate on-line all you want but keep it out of the cockpit. You're wanting to take it upon yourself to negatively change the lives of thousands, including your own.
Take a minute to sit back, calm down, have a beer, and seriously think about the consequences your actions could have not only on you, but on others. How could you possibly want that kind of blood on your hands?
Just a few words for thought. The reality of the situation is that someone acting in that manor won't last long. So when you're back in the same spot what did you gain and what do you have to show for it? That spotless record of yours might look a little tarnished after being fired. In this market why give up what job security you have for nothing?
Take a minute to sit back, calm down, have a beer, and seriously think about the consequences your actions could have not only on you, but on others. How could you possibly want that kind of blood on your hands?
Just a few words for thought. The reality of the situation is that someone acting in that manor won't last long. So when you're back in the same spot what did you gain and what do you have to show for it? That spotless record of yours might look a little tarnished after being fired. In this market why give up what job security you have for nothing?
01-12-2010, 03:09 AM
#186
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 312
01-12-2010, 03:44 AM
#187
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 790
There are a few things you need to consider Rat. No one here works for the fun of it. They might enjoy their jobs but none the less it's still their job. It's their way of supporting themselves and their family. Are you really willing to do what you can to hurt the job security of thousands of other individuals? Do you really think it's worth that? What of the Midwest guys coming over looking for a means to continue to support their family are you seriously wanting to take that away? There's no need for this nonsense. If you come here then be professional. Show up, do your job, go home, hate on-line all you want but keep it out of the cockpit. You're wanting to take it upon yourself to negatively change the lives of thousands, including your own.
Take a minute to sit back, calm down, have a beer, and seriously think about the consequences your actions could have not only on you, but on others. How could you possibly want that kind of blood on your hands?
Just a few words for thought. The reality of the situation is that someone acting in that manor won't last long. So when you're back in the same spot what did you gain and what do you have to show for it? That spotless record of yours might look a little tarnished after being fired. In this market why give up what job security you have for nothing?
Take a minute to sit back, calm down, have a beer, and seriously think about the consequences your actions could have not only on you, but on others. How could you possibly want that kind of blood on your hands?
Just a few words for thought. The reality of the situation is that someone acting in that manor won't last long. So when you're back in the same spot what did you gain and what do you have to show for it? That spotless record of yours might look a little tarnished after being fired. In this market why give up what job security you have for nothing?
01-12-2010, 03:49 AM
#188
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 790
Who says I need this job? How would grounding an airplane put "blood on my hands?' We want to hurt you, and your company financially. We want to help drive you out of business. That is our plan. We don't care about some dirt bag supervisor either. Your company means nothing to us nor do your rules. From what I am hearing, you are doing a pretty good job of running yourself out of business. Air Tran is winning in MKE and the Reverend is running out of sermons.
You, and a couple others, should probably step back and view how they look like sociopaths on this board.
You are doing harm to your fellow Midwest pilots.(and non-pilots still working there)
01-12-2010, 04:50 AM
#189
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 312
The "we" you are speaking of then also want to hurt your fellow Midwest pilots who may work there(or not, if you do enough harm) and Frontier people as well, who have suffered enough lately as well.
You, and a couple others, should probably step back and view how they look like sociopaths on this board.
You are doing harm to your fellow Midwest pilots.(and non-pilots still working there)
You, and a couple others, should probably step back and view how they look like sociopaths on this board.
You are doing harm to your fellow Midwest pilots.(and non-pilots still working there)
01-12-2010, 05:09 AM
#190
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 790
Can you not see how you are making it LESS likely for a Midwest pilot to have a job there? Can you not see that you (and a couple others) are making it more difficult for those that do go there (when that time comes)? Can you not see that you are wishing harm upon people who have absolutely nothing to do with your predicament, and many who currently share your predicament?
If the day comes that I am working there and I make an error on the line, do you not see that I will then be suspected of deliberate sabotage as opposed to a simple mistake? If I call in sick, do you not see that as an ex-Midwest pilot I will be suspected of malignering rather than merely sick?
Yes, we don't have jobs, but your rants are making it more difficult for us to find one. Don't you think other airline people read this board? Who wants to hire nut cases? Who wants to hire people so filled with daily rage they can't think rationally?
Lastly, when Skyway was replaced by Skywest, what did you do for them? Did you quit? Did you call for a wildcat strike in support of your brothers and sisters? Did you write USA Today? Or the Journal? Or Tim H.?
I would guess you did the same that everyone at Republic has done. You said that is a shame and outrageous. You expressed sympathy for those affected. Then you picked up your flight bag and went to work. Being enraged at people who didn't harm you is infantile. The system we live in screwed you, not your fellow laborers.
If the day comes that I am working there and I make an error on the line, do you not see that I will then be suspected of deliberate sabotage as opposed to a simple mistake? If I call in sick, do you not see that as an ex-Midwest pilot I will be suspected of malignering rather than merely sick?
Yes, we don't have jobs, but your rants are making it more difficult for us to find one. Don't you think other airline people read this board? Who wants to hire nut cases? Who wants to hire people so filled with daily rage they can't think rationally?
Lastly, when Skyway was replaced by Skywest, what did you do for them? Did you quit? Did you call for a wildcat strike in support of your brothers and sisters? Did you write USA Today? Or the Journal? Or Tim H.?
I would guess you did the same that everyone at Republic has done. You said that is a shame and outrageous. You expressed sympathy for those affected. Then you picked up your flight bag and went to work. Being enraged at people who didn't harm you is infantile. The system we live in screwed you, not your fellow laborers.
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