FAA Watching American .....
01-03-2010, 05:34 AM
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FAA Watching American .....
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FAA watching American Airlines closely after botched landings - CNN.com
FAA watching American Airlines closely after botched landings - CNN.com
01-03-2010, 05:53 AM
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The FAA should be watching itself.
It appears from early reports that these crews (at least in CLT and MBJ) were in excess of 12-14 hours on duty and attempting landings in challenging weather conditions. If you're fatigued and you're thrown into a tough situation, sometimes things aren't going to go well... hasn't it been determined that being on duty 12-14 hours or some number in that range puts your decision making and reaction abilities at those of someone who is legally intoxicated. Even though those duty times are normal to us airline pilots, it doesn't make them safe.
But, instead like always, the crews involved will just be disciplined and nothing will get done to actually fix the problem...
It appears from early reports that these crews (at least in CLT and MBJ) were in excess of 12-14 hours on duty and attempting landings in challenging weather conditions. If you're fatigued and you're thrown into a tough situation, sometimes things aren't going to go well... hasn't it been determined that being on duty 12-14 hours or some number in that range puts your decision making and reaction abilities at those of someone who is legally intoxicated. Even though those duty times are normal to us airline pilots, it doesn't make them safe.
But, instead like always, the crews involved will just be disciplined and nothing will get done to actually fix the problem...
01-03-2010, 10:11 AM
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When you look at the big picture every major carrier has had their share of incidences over the years. We can agree that there is no direct correlation to the number of landing incidences that AA has incurred to their culture. The same goes for Delta with the Taxiway landing incident and overflying of MSP or the number of runway incursions by pilots from different carriers too. At the end of the day I think we can agree that most accidents and incidences (with the exception of mechanical failure) don’t occur as a result of proper disciplines with adherences to SOPs by crewmembers.
Perhaps one needs to look beyond each airline specific and look at the crewmember(s) as a whole.
01-03-2010, 04:28 PM
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I guess you can add CLT to the list too. But Cali was some 14 years ago this May.
When you look at the big picture every major carrier has had their share of incidences over the years. We can agree that there is no direct correlation to the number of landing incidences that AA has incurred to their culture. The same goes for Delta with the Taxiway landing incident and overflying of MSP or the number of runway incursions by pilots from different carriers too. At the end of the day I think we can agree that most accidents and incidences (with the exception of mechanical failure) don’t occur as a result of proper disciplines with adherences to SOPs by crewmembers.
Perhaps one needs to look beyond each airline specific and look at the crewmember(s) as a whole.
When you look at the big picture every major carrier has had their share of incidences over the years. We can agree that there is no direct correlation to the number of landing incidences that AA has incurred to their culture. The same goes for Delta with the Taxiway landing incident and overflying of MSP or the number of runway incursions by pilots from different carriers too. At the end of the day I think we can agree that most accidents and incidences (with the exception of mechanical failure) don’t occur as a result of proper disciplines with adherences to SOPs by crewmembers.
Perhaps one needs to look beyond each airline specific and look at the crewmember(s) as a whole.
01-03-2010, 04:45 PM
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