Bedford inserts foot into mouth
12-21-2009, 12:30 PM
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If Airtran and SWA run RAH out of Mke it won't much matter how many people senior to you leave. It also would mean that everyone from Midwest who lost their job will never get it back. For all the people who root for the demise of RAH it means 3281 pilots (by the count of the pilot central site for Frontier, Lynx, and Republic plus the number I know for Midwest), and who knows how many Flight Attendants, mechanics, gate agents, etc etc, would lose their jobs. A certain percentage of job losses always end in some further tragedy for the furloughee and their family. People are often glib when they speak of other peoples jobs.
Even if I end up somewhere else during this transition I hope Republic is a success. Not for the sake of the Bedfords or the Wexford capitals of the world. It is for the sake of all those who would be on the street, and for the sake of all those furloughed who would come back. (by the way 170Homie, this isn't a dig at you personally, it is only meant for those who seem to hope for the demise of RAH. Maybe they'll think of the human costs if their stated wish actually came true)
Even if I end up somewhere else during this transition I hope Republic is a success. Not for the sake of the Bedfords or the Wexford capitals of the world. It is for the sake of all those who would be on the street, and for the sake of all those furloughed who would come back. (by the way 170Homie, this isn't a dig at you personally, it is only meant for those who seem to hope for the demise of RAH. Maybe they'll think of the human costs if their stated wish actually came true)
12-21-2009, 04:47 PM
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Geeks? Midwest had some pretty high standards for hiring. They hired people from Eastern, Braniff, Pan Am, Midway, ATA, TWA, PBA, Air Wisconsin, Air Midwest, Midstate,,Skyway, Mesaba, Trans States, Ryan, Airborne Express, American Eagle and several airlines that became American Eagle. Not to mention the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, Army, and Coast Guard. They flew everything from B-52s to helicopter gunships, Vigilantes to OV-10s, BAC-111s to Citations, Beech 1900s to Lockeed Electras, you name it and we had someone that flew it.They were fighter pilots, bomber pilots, trash haulers,helicopter pilots, corporate pilots, freight dogs, commuter pilots, previous airline pilots, one gentleman was even in line for command of an aircraft carrier. No one came from some "shake and bake" school.
12-21-2009, 05:43 PM
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Beautifully written, Dougdrvr!!
12-21-2009, 06:11 PM
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Geeks? Midwest had some pretty high standards for hiring. They hired people from Eastern, Braniff, Pan Am, Midway, ATA, TWA, PBA, Air Wisconsin, Air Midwest, Midstate,,Skyway, Mesaba, Trans States, Ryan, Airborne Express, American Eagle and several airlines that became American Eagle. Not to mention the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, Army, and Coast Guard. They flew everything from B-52s to helicopter gunships, Vigilantes to OV-10s, BAC-111s to Citations, Beech 1900s to Lockeed Electras, you name it and we had someone that flew it.They were fighter pilots, bomber pilots, trash haulers,helicopter pilots, corporate pilots, freight dogs, commuter pilots, previous airline pilots, one gentleman was even in line for command of an aircraft carrier. No one came from some "shake and bake" school.
12-22-2009, 03:56 AM
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Geeks? Midwest had some pretty high standards for hiring. They hired people from Eastern, Braniff, Pan Am, Midway, ATA, TWA, PBA, Air Wisconsin, Air Midwest, Midstate,,Skyway, Mesaba, Trans States, Ryan, Airborne Express, American Eagle and several airlines that became American Eagle. Not to mention the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, Army, and Coast Guard. They flew everything from B-52s to helicopter gunships, Vigilantes to OV-10s, BAC-111s to Citations, Beech 1900s to Lockeed Electras, you name it and we had someone that flew it.They were fighter pilots, bomber pilots, trash haulers,helicopter pilots, corporate pilots, freight dogs, commuter pilots, previous airline pilots, one gentleman was even in line for command of an aircraft carrier. No one came from some "shake and bake" school.
Perhaps somebody from RAH can enlighten us with the flight backgrounds of their pilots? Especially the ones hired to replace the Midwest pilots?
(Please no "war stories" about taking a C150 on a 50 mile "cross country" for a $100 hamburger
)We are all waiting . . . . . .
12-22-2009, 04:11 AM
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Excellent post.
Perhaps somebody from RAH can enlighten us with the flight backgrounds of their pilots? Especially the ones hired to replace the Midwest pilots?
(Please no "war stories" about taking a C150 on a 50 mile "cross country" for a $100 hamburger)
We are all waiting . . . . . .
Perhaps somebody from RAH can enlighten us with the flight backgrounds of their pilots? Especially the ones hired to replace the Midwest pilots?
(Please no "war stories" about taking a C150 on a 50 mile "cross country" for a $100 hamburger
)We are all waiting . . . . . .
12-22-2009, 05:10 AM
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I think TPG, Rev BB and Republic EXCO read this article together...
Step1
Make your play when business is down. When business is booming you are not going to get much support to try to break a union. If all is well, no one is going to want to pick a fight with the workers. On the other hand, if you are faced with poor revenues or especially in bankruptcy your position may be much stronger.
Step2
Move when unemployment is high. One of the strengths of a union is that their members make up the workforce of a business. If the business cannot replace those workers then the union has a significant tool to bring the company to their knees. If unemployment is high there is a chance that those workers could be more easily replaced, thus weakening the primary advantage the union possesses.
Step3
Use the legal system to your advantage. If you can find grounds for a judge to dismiss some of your agreements with the union it could significantly weaken their position in negotiations.
Step4
Get the public and politicians on your side. If the people are not supportive of a union, especially a union that provides goods or services from the government, that union is going to struggle to maintain its power. Politicians can make things either easier or more difficult. Trying to break a union is tough enough without political support. With these groups supporting you it is only a matter of time before you break the union.
Step1
Make your play when business is down. When business is booming you are not going to get much support to try to break a union. If all is well, no one is going to want to pick a fight with the workers. On the other hand, if you are faced with poor revenues or especially in bankruptcy your position may be much stronger.
Step2
Move when unemployment is high. One of the strengths of a union is that their members make up the workforce of a business. If the business cannot replace those workers then the union has a significant tool to bring the company to their knees. If unemployment is high there is a chance that those workers could be more easily replaced, thus weakening the primary advantage the union possesses.
Step3
Use the legal system to your advantage. If you can find grounds for a judge to dismiss some of your agreements with the union it could significantly weaken their position in negotiations.
Step4
Get the public and politicians on your side. If the people are not supportive of a union, especially a union that provides goods or services from the government, that union is going to struggle to maintain its power. Politicians can make things either easier or more difficult. Trying to break a union is tough enough without political support. With these groups supporting you it is only a matter of time before you break the union.
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