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03-18-2010, 07:55 AM

#261

RickJames

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Originally Posted by captainchipotle

Don't get a letter of Rec from somebody in the ALPA push over there. Until M.D. is out it doesn't matter how you do in the interview.

hate hate hate hate ALPA!

So i guess everyone on the alpa push should quit so they can help their buddies get on board......

03-18-2010, 10:24 AM

#262

Fishfreighter

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Sorry guys, but I have to disagree. In a seniority system, you are awarded your upgrade when your seniority can hold it. You go to training. You pass your checkrides and you're a Capt.

Getting "recommendations" perverts the system. If you're marked as an ALPA supporter, they could pressure the Check Airmen NOT to recommend you.

03-18-2010, 02:35 PM

#263

PurpleCRJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishfreighter

I don't really see what the big deal is about getting a few letters. If nobody wants to give you a letter, there's probably a reason for that. A lot of guys will write a letter for even a sub-par pilot as long as he/she has a good attitude.

If you're an ALPA supporter, and the company doesn't want ALPA, what does that have to do with upgrading? As if once you're a captain, you are gonna have so much pull that you get ALPA onboard? I don't think most companies are so calculated that they strategize against certain pilots either. If they made these types of power-plays, the union push would be even stronger.

03-18-2010, 04:43 PM

#264

vl782

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Position: LR45, C550

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Anyone send there stuff in and hear anything back yet?

03-19-2010, 09:11 AM

#265

Slowrida

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Just put my stuff in, hope to hear something soon. I was wondering if they have you sign any kind of training contract? I thought I heard a rumor about it, but haven't found any information on the subject.

03-19-2010, 10:40 AM

#266

CLMP

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They are looking to fill a maximum of 16 slots. We easily have 5 times that amount in recommendations. If you don't have a recommendation (or two) from a current Allegiant pilot, I wouldn't wait by the phone.

03-19-2010, 02:15 PM

#267

pipercub

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no training contracts

03-19-2010, 02:56 PM

#268

vl782

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Its sad everything is based on recommendations. That has nothing to do with if your qualified for the job.

03-19-2010, 09:16 PM

#269

jetgo166

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Seniority has no relation to recommendations. If you are next, you should be in ground school. Recommendations are great political tools, and should have no business at real airlines. If you wash out, then that's another thing.

03-21-2010, 08:06 AM

#270

CLMP

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Originally Posted by jetgo166

If you wash out, then the airline has just spent thousands on you needlessly. Why not get people who are known to be good pilots/employees and have been observed as such from people already AT your company rather than somone who was able to "fake" the interview? It's just supply and demand, folks. If every legacy was hiring, we'd have people no-showing for interviews and classes. It happened back in '07 during that brief hiring window of United, CAL, NWA, Netjets, etc. Back then, we were washing out about 1 or 2 per class. Now that we have been getting almost exclusively recommended pilots, our washout has been at ZERO for a couple of years now.