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Old 06-17-2006, 08:22 AM
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I think thats a pretty reasonable explanation. Consider a civilian going through the ratings. Training varies so greatly between a Mom and Pop flight school as opposed to a University or 'flight academy.' I am not saying that either is better than the other, but there are a lot of different training methods for these places and the end product is never the same, as opposed to the military route which has a training schedule set in stone from day 1 to the end with proficiency checks all along the way to ensure the end product will be the same as every other one.
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Old 06-17-2006, 01:34 PM
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It works the other way too. The Air Force instructors told my UPT class that previous flying time meant nothing, but that wasn't really true. Those with civilian ratings had little trouble with the T-41 (Cessna 172) and the T-37 pre-solo flights. Since almost all washouts (about 30% of the class) occurred in these early phases, that was significant. After T-37 solo, the "previous time" advantage faded away.
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
It works the other way too. The Air Force instructors told my UPT class that previous flying time meant nothing, but that wasn't really true. Those with civilian ratings had little trouble with the T-41 (Cessna 172) and the T-37 pre-solo flights. Since almost all washouts (about 30% of the class) occurred in these early phases, that was significant. After T-37 solo, the "previous time" advantage faded away.
I went civi before military and it was a hugh advantage over guys with little or no time. Learning the military way of things was still a challenge but much less than others in my class. After UPT and my form 8 ride in the Viper any advantage I had was all but gone since flying the a/c is almost secondary to actually employing it.
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:19 PM
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it can work both ways, the military has better standards of training, etc

how ever, if your being working in the regionals for x amount of years, you would already know how airliners tend to operate, already accustomed to airspace limitations procedures etc,

i believe they should take regional time over military time, as generally the regionals have a lot more experience going in and out of majors hubs etc..
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Old 06-18-2006, 05:01 PM
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it can work both ways, the military has better standards of training, etc

how ever, if your being working in the regionals for x amount of years, you would already know how airliners tend to operate, already accustomed to airspace limitations procedures etc,

i believe they should take regional time over military time, as generally the regionals have a lot more experience going in and out of majors hubs etc..
Exactly, and any major airline instructor will tell you that commuter guys/gals (as a whole) are much easier to train for the job.
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Old 06-18-2006, 08:43 PM
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Plus they can shift you to a short-call reserve at the drop of a hat and not pay you one dime extra until the 3rd time they do it to you.

More BS from our last contract that nobody bothered to read before voting on
Hey 757driver...ya said our contract was crappy!!..hell we didn't even think of that. Our guarantee is 5 hours less than max, regardless of short call or long call reserve..........
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Old 06-18-2006, 08:47 PM
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Exactly, and any major airline instructor will tell you that commuter guys/gals (as a whole) are much easier to train for the job.
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Ever been shot at? Trust me avoiding fire makes flying into LGA on a Friday nite childs play.....I've done both. And not sure what you mean by easier to train. I'm a Marine so the instructor did have to use mono-sylabic words, but I made it through OK....
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Old 06-18-2006, 08:54 PM
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Exactly, and any major airline instructor will tell you that commuter guys/gals (as a whole) are much easier to train for the job.
you've got to be kidding with a statement like that. figuring out what ramp control is so much more difficult than flying combat missions. yeah right
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Oh joy, another military flyer vs. civilian trained flyers competition?
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Old 06-20-2006, 06:38 PM
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Cody

Ive got orders to T-1's in Vance. How much flight time should I expect? How is the life there, and any suggestions or things to look out for when checking in?

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