Why You Should Never Believe A Passenger
07-30-2009, 03:29 PM
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This "witness" is less than credible. You'd have to be sitting beside the cowl in the back of the jet to see anything go into an engine, and you can't see the back end of it so he didn't see anything come out--certainly not "the whole thing."
07-30-2009, 03:36 PM
#12
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i suggest putting something comparable to a rotisserie skew in front of the engines. the bird woud get impaled and with the speed/airflow hopefully the feathers come off. after that, the skewer would slid into an opening by the burners for a nice 'grilling'. right before engine shut down, the FA opens the appropriate door to let the chosen sauce into the engine to flavor the bird. did i miss anything?
07-30-2009, 04:05 PM
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The passenger account was CORRECT, which makes him a good witness.
It does not say that the passenger who saw the bird go in was the same passenger who saw it exit.
Even if it was the same passenger, if he saw a flash of white, then saw it exit, he could reasonably infer that it went into the engine.
Why are you guys such haters? Yes, I know that some passengers say stupid things, but this (these) witness accounts were accurate.
It does not say that the passenger who saw the bird go in was the same passenger who saw it exit.
Even if it was the same passenger, if he saw a flash of white, then saw it exit, he could reasonably infer that it went into the engine.
Why are you guys such haters? Yes, I know that some passengers say stupid things, but this (these) witness accounts were accurate.
07-30-2009, 04:09 PM
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Unless you are dangling at the end of a rope tied to the tailcone, no one is going to see anything coming out the back of a Pratt on an MD-80, unless you are a pax in a different aircraft - and especially if you are sitting forward enough of the engine to see it go in.
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http://www.ibtimes.com/data/articlei...craft-sits.jpg
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http://www.ibtimes.com/data/articlei...craft-sits.jpg
07-30-2009, 04:13 PM
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The passenger account was CORRECT, which makes him a good witness.
It does not say that the passenger who saw the bird go in was the same passenger who saw it exit.
Even if it was the same passenger, if he saw a flash of white, then saw it exit, he could reasonably infer that it went into the engine.
Why are you guys such haters? Yes, I know that some passengers say stupid things, but this (these) witness accounts were accurate.
It does not say that the passenger who saw the bird go in was the same passenger who saw it exit.
Even if it was the same passenger, if he saw a flash of white, then saw it exit, he could reasonably infer that it went into the engine.
Why are you guys such haters? Yes, I know that some passengers say stupid things, but this (these) witness accounts were accurate.
What he's saying is that on the dc-9 series aircraft, including all the
MD-80 variants, is that it is physically impossible to see the rear of the engines.
And he's right. You can see the intakes from about 2-3 specific rows near the back of the cabin, but that's it. You cant see anything aft of that.
There's no way anyone saw anything come out of the back from inside the aircraft.
Last edited by Jay5150; 07-30-2009 at 05:21 PM. Reason: grammar
07-30-2009, 04:24 PM
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Unless you are dangling at the end of a rope tied to the tailcone, no one is going to see anything coming out the back of a Pratt on an MD-80, unless you are a pax in a different aircraft - and especially if you are sitting forward enough of the engine to see it go in.
Pic.
http://www.ibtimes.com/data/articlei...craft-sits.jpg
Pic.
http://www.ibtimes.com/data/articlei...craft-sits.jpg
Maybe he was doing a DB Cooper and saw it on the way down.
Or maybe the media got the plane type wrong.
Or maybe the witness was so focused on BBQ that he was hallucinating?
07-30-2009, 04:28 PM
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