Originally Posted by 757Driver

Just do what CAL does every summer and send every single training Pilot to the Line, stop hiring, (more hiring would alleviate most of the problem), pay guys time and 1/2 who can't wait to help the company out instead of having a properly staffed airline and your set.

Originally Posted by fireman0174

The company's interest is NOT centered around Quality Of Life for you guys. It's a one-way street for them - they don't give a damn about QOL for the pilots. They want it to enable them to get more work out of you.

I was somewhat involved in the preferential bidding system test in the early to mid 80s. The company was only interested in it to work you more, nothing else, no matter what line of crap they gave us back then nor are giving you today.

Originally Posted by 24/48

How many folks are still on furlough at UAL?

Originally Posted by skybolt

No forgery there Uncle Bose. If you care, you can search skyhighs posts and find it yourself. It came from one of his rants in a pilot pay thread. You know, one of the threads that was split by the mod and it still went over ten pages.

As for the way I posted the quote, I got the quote by using cut and paste from the search page. I then added it to my signature by using a standard forum quote that uses this format (except I'm going to use this symbol, { , instead of this, [ , to bracket the quote.

example {quote=skyhigh}followed by the quote, ended by this{/quote}

No forgery needed.

I include it because I intend to show that skyhigh has an agenda other than just helping kids avoid this industry. He appears to have genuine issues with airline pilots. I actually am beginning to feel sorry for the man.

skybolt

edit: Luckily, I've got a late show, so I did the work for ya Unc. Here's a link to skyhighs post

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...&postcount=105

It's post #105 in the "how much should a pilot be payed, Part II" thread. Dated, 01-09-2006 at 8:17AM.

You're welcome

Originally Posted by SkyHigh

SkyBolt,

Thanks man! I just found this post and am honored to be in your signature. Here is another one, "the airlines are designed to accommodate the lowest common denominator". You could try this one also, "Skill and ability have no value in the 121 system".

Skyhigh

Originally Posted by skybolt

Skyhigh, I really don't understand why you have such a dislike for pilots! Why do you continue to demean the people who do the job? I don't have any problem with your industry bashing, Lord knows I've done it myself, but why must you show disrespect for those of us who do the job.

Do you really think that airline pilots have no natural ability and skill?

If you think that "airlines are designed to accomodate the lowest common denominator", then I'll submit that you never interviewed at any major pax of box carrier. The airline training, and union job protection systems may protect a pilot once that pilot gains a job, but I can assure you that "lowest common denominator pilots" never get the job to begin with.
In fact, even though I have a healthy disrespect for those with SJS, even most of those punks are da##ed good pilots.

I'll remove your quote from my sig when you stop pilot bashing.

Skybolt

Originally Posted by SkyHigh

I think that the airlines take an assembly line approach to flying that reduces the actual skill and ability down to near rote memorization. Safety demands a sterile system that mostly removes the human element as risk. The results are that pilots are spoon fed information from dispatch and lead around like dogs by ATC. Airline pilots are not supposed to think for themselves but instead are taught to refer to manuals and decision trees for guidance. In an emergency the crew member is supposed to regurgitate a canned response like a computer and they are assessed by how well they can resemble automation. SkyHigh