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Old 06-18-2009, 03:25 PM
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I never thought I would read comments like these on this message board. It's one thing to read junk like this on a SEC football message board, but a man died today. Did some of you forget or are you so tied up in union trench warfare that nothing is beyond the pale?

Who cares if this man crossed a picket line. He was a human being. We know nothing about his background. We know nothing about his financial situation. It's easy to support a strike if you have a fat bank account or live a single life. It's not easy to support a strike if you're plagued by debt or have a wife and young children.

Don't forget there are just as many people who don't support unions in general as there are people who do support them. Those who are philosophically opposed to the union concept are still forced to join in order to be part of pilot groups. It's hardly a choice.

Don't take what I have written as an endorsement one way or another for unions. I just think that far too often we miss the forest for the trees. A man died today.
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:41 PM
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Who cares if this man crossed a picket line.
Who? The brothers he stepped on to get across the line.

He was a human being.
So was Hitler and Idi Amin. Should we shed a tear for them also?

We know nothing about his background. We know nothing about his financial situation.
Unfortunately we do know a quite a bit about his background. That is why he probably spent the last night of his life alone on a layover. Maybe his past is what killed him. Living with being labeled a scab may actually prove to have a negative impact on your longevity. A difficult way to go through life, having to reap what you sow. Who could imagine consequences for actions? This is America! We don't want consequences! <tic>


A man died today.
Or to further define that statement, an Over 60, Scab died today. If you are sympathetic to those that fit into that category then you have a good reason to feel sad.
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:50 PM
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:51 PM
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Wow. I must say I'm impressed. As a PAX and frequent flyer, I will never look on pilots in the same light. I understand those of you who have trouble with those who cross (ed) the picket line, but some of the comments made...WOW, just WOW. I hope at least some of you can make it to the service to spit on his grave in front of the family. Perhaps a new internet theorem, Anonaminity is the inverse of Class.
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Champcar
What a bunch of pricks. I'm sure you'd all cross the line if you needed to.
You're so wrong. There a lots of pilots who would never work for a non-Union carrier, much less cross a picket line. Count me among them.

Originally Posted by Slice
I care. I hope you never come to UPS with your way of thinking. Everyone that didn't cross had a family to take care of too. Excuses are like....
Thank you, Slice. You are a prime example of an honest man of integrity.
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:57 PM
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There use to be a day in the distant past when two warriors would try to kill each other in aerial combat and when one of them finally shot the other down he might even fly by the other hanging in the chute and give him a valient wingdip to denote a hard won victory.
Two people trying to kill one another can have more respect for one another than some of those in the industry today.
It is sad. having lost a mother in the last few weeks; I mourn for his family and friends.

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Old 06-18-2009, 04:00 PM
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There are more parallels to warfare than you imagine. However, in warfare, your enemies are at least honest in their intentions. You know they're trying to kill you.

They don't cross your picket line to take your job. Perhaps that is the difference.
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Old 06-18-2009, 04:09 PM
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Scab or not, RIP...


I have to bring this up though...

Isn't this the second over age 57 pilot to die at the controls at CAL alone within the past year alone since the age 60 law was changed? I know most everyone thinks changing age 60 was a mistake, but shouldn't we concentrate our efforts to undoing the age 65 rule before this gets out of hand!!
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Old 06-18-2009, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sydney5316
This is one sad thread. Not for the CAL captain but for the lack of compassion to a fellow human being. This makes me sick. I'm not a SCAB lover either but at some point the hatred must stop. I think death is that point. RIP fellow aviator.
I completely disagree. There are few moments in a man's life that have the ability to define who you are and what you stood for. If one makes a conscious decision to cross a picket line, he has determined his own legacy.
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Old 06-18-2009, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
There use to be a day in the distant past when two warriors would try to kill each other in aerial combat and when one of them finally shot the other down he might even fly by the other hanging in the chute and give him a valient wingdip to denote a hard won victory.
Two people trying to kill one another can have more respect for one another than some of those in the industry today.
It is sad. having lost a mother in the last few weeks; I mourn for his family and friends.

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Sorry for your loss.
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