Originally Posted by RJSAviator76

If I understand it correctly, UAL furloughs get 2nd year FO pay - G7 pays them year 1 pay, and UAL ALPA makes up the difference or something like that.

Originally Posted by Mach93

I am getting really sick of this argument. You guys act like the United furlougees had a choice whether or not to stay at United or take a job at Gojet. All the furloughees were kicked to the curb like yesterdays trash. Next, do you guys actually really think that if the United furloughees did not take those Gojet jobs the planes wouldn't have come? Do you think glenn would have said, wow we cant get the furloughees to fly their replacement jets, lets order some new narrow body airplane and bring them on property. No, they would have plenty of other guys out on the street flying these airplanes and the planes would have still have shown up. Last, the Trans States/Gojet thing is getting tiring. They had a chance to capture the flying in 05. They turned it down believing they could get this pie in the sky contract flying the airplanes. They democratically voted down the flying. Some times you have to make hard choices to get things you want down the road. Look at what Eagle did. They took a 10 year some what crapy contract just to get all the Eaglets to merge into one company. The guys at Trans States couldn't take a 2 year extention to their contract to capture the 70 flying permently? Also, as far as is a Ual furloughee taking a job from a TSA pilot. I dont see where it is wrong for UAL pilot to take the job on the issue of pay (ie less money that mainline) but yet it is ok for a waterskier to (if they had the airplanes and were expanding while mainline was furloughing).

Originally Posted by RJSAviator76

Furthermore, I don't have much sympathy for the "entitlement generation" who got hired with a wet commercial multi ticket and now expects the rest of the world to bow down to them when thousands of HIGHLY qualified pilots are on the street. Frankly, I find it disgusting that our current system would put a 15,000 hour captain whose airline went under to sit in the right seat to some 3000 pilot, and have that 15,000 hour pilot qualify for food stamps all over again, but that's another discussion altogether. Bottom line, I encourage everyone I know that's out of work to apply at GoJet because they won't starve for years like they would with many other regionals if they were even hiring. If nothing else, GoJet puts food on their table, keeps a roof over their heads, pays their medical insurance, and keeps them current so they can find better jobs much easier than they would if they weren't flying at all.

Originally Posted by RJSAviator76

Good on you, Shrek!

Do share on how furloughees have a choice on where their income comes from, though. Some might find it useful.

Originally Posted by anothernumber

You always have a choice, it may not be an easy one though. Shrek commutes to Asia. Some others from UAL? How about a Dubai commute, Fedex truck driver, insurance salesman to name a few. Me? I got "lucky" and landed a job in Russia. You can Justify Gojet all you want but in the end it's just a Justification.

Originally Posted by dashtrash300

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