The glory days are over
#31
Dude??
Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
Dude, you NEED to get a life. Ok, so being a pilot isn't so glamorous as it used to be..ok, its downright BAD. You sound like a whiney 5 year old with your "BOO HOO I was a pilot and now I'm not so don't even think about it." Just go away and cry to your book club.
SKyHigh
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
Originally Posted by 2dotslow
Maybe I missed it, I'm fairly new to this site. Is skybolt somebody important, or does he/she simply think that only their point of view holds water...seriously? Who are you?
You are most likely just a skyHigh alter ego, but I'll go ahead and answer. I'm just a line pilot. My opinion counts the same as does yours. So post away, then I post away, etc. Here's the way it works, I don't post to argue with you, or skyHIgh, I post to counter your tone; I'm speaking to others who may read this forum so that I can help uphold a little respect for my job and my fellow pilots. SkyHigh has a long history of "speaking the truth", but he also has a long history of bashing pilots. I will continue to respond when skyHigh attempts to demean me and mine.
I ask skyHigh "why are you still here" because his presence is a puzzle. Why does someone who left the business continue to come back and bash those who remain. It's a free country, he had the freedom to leave, I have the freedom to stay. It seems to me that skyHigh can't stand the fact that he is out but some of us with greater intestinal fortitude than he, managed to remain.
I myself may leave the industry. However, if I do, I'll never return to an aviation industry forum and bash the workers. Greedy Don Carty/ lorenzo/Borman/etc type managers will be the object of my continuing scorn.
Skybolt
#33
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
The world you live in must be something to see. Too bad it only exists in your head. Seems that these days I have to get in line in order to ALPA bash. Try reading other peoples posts once in a while. I know that you are my number one fan but branch out a little.
SkyHigh
SkyHigh
Skybolt
#34
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
The exception here is that you will be gone most of the time and when you are home they will be at school.
SkyHigh
SkyHigh
#35
WHy
Originally Posted by skybolt
I ask skyHigh "why are you still here" because his presence is a puzzle. Why does someone who left the business continue to come back and bash those who remain. It's a free country, he had the freedom to leave, I have the freedom to stay. It seems to me that skyHigh can't stand the fact that he is out but some of us with greater intestinal fortitude than he, managed to remain.
Skybolt
Thanks Bolt !!! I need guys like you to cross swords with.
To answer your question as to why I am here. As with everyone here I love aviation it was my continuing dream for over 20 years of my life. Since 14 I have been passionately pursuing my magnificent obsession by giving my 100% everyday. Love is blind but over a few decades of disappointments and in a desperate attempt to salvage my dying career I began to take the blinders off in order to see what the problem was. The results are what I post here. People need to know the truth about our addiction. Pilots and unions I believe are a part of the problem. I also feel that the job has become all to easy to get into and that it is becoming very easy to do.
In the end aviation failed me. As with beaten wife syndrome a few are able to wake up and get out. It is the choice that I had to make. I don't have to cling to the positive anymore. My perspective is unaltered and I can afford to have a negative view at times.
You guys are all that I have left after nearly 20 years of efforts and sacrifice. I enjoy sharing ideas and ducking your arrows. You are a very worthy foe and I look forward to your posts.
SKyHigh
#36
Parents
Originally Posted by atpwannabe
Initially, that may be the case . However, my hope is to live and raise my children where I'm based . I know that may sound presumptuous, but I'll cross that bridge when and if it comes.
It is really presumptuous. If you really admired your parents then perhaps you should strive to emulate them. As a pilot even in the best of circumstances you would miss most birthdays and holidays and could never participate in most activities.
SKyHigh
#37
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Thanks Bolt !!! I need guys like you to cross swords with.
You guys are all that I have left after nearly 20 years of efforts and sacrifice. I enjoy sharing ideas and ducking your arrows. You are a very worthy foe and I look forward to your posts.
SKyHigh
You guys are all that I have left after nearly 20 years of efforts and sacrifice. I enjoy sharing ideas and ducking your arrows. You are a very worthy foe and I look forward to your posts.
SKyHigh
atp
#38
Originally Posted by Seaber
Interesting article by Schiff. He's so highly respected in our profession that his words will force the head-in-the-sand types to finally acknowledge that compensation levels are a faint shadow of what they once were, and are continuing to decline.
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We are well on our way toward becoming a thoroughly blue-collar profession, like computer systems engineers or factory supervisors.
(snip)
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We are well on our way toward becoming a thoroughly blue-collar profession, like computer systems engineers or factory supervisors.
(snip)
Rich pilots are divided pilots.
#39
Originally Posted by skybolt
I'll give you this one. ALPA bashing is a popular sport these days. I'll be more careful in the future to differentiate between ALPA bashing and your pilot bashing. It's the pilot bashing that really bugs me anyway.
Skybolt
Skybolt
Originally Posted by dckozak You've seen 2dotslow last professional flight as an aviator (every time he posts!).
He's just a management puke. (got to be better at ass kissing than landings jets)
He's just a management puke. (got to be better at ass kissing than landings jets)
Maybe this: from a purported 757 Driver...
Allright, who told these D!ckhead management types they could start posting here?
Go back to your cushy offices and get back to work.
Go back to your cushy offices and get back to work.
I will continue to respond when skyHigh attempts to demean me and mine.
Last edited by 2dotslow; 05-26-2006 at 04:09 PM.
#40
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 6,009
Originally Posted by Packer Backer
Remember, it's a lot easier for a guy making 30K a year to go on strike than it is for a guy making 200K. Rich pilots are divided pilots.
It’s not easy for any one, regardless the level of income, or industry which one is gainfully employed in, to go on strike. It’s a disruption of one’s life, life style, family and livelihood.
Today typically, individuals try to spend and save within their means. It’s common for a husband and or wife to maintain a part time job in addition to their full time job which results in two to three incomes per household. Then there are those who spend beyond their means and go into debt. Pilots as other professionals are not immune to this peril. Fixed expenses, such as mortgages, car leases, educations didn’t decline in the same proportion as salaries did. This is a catastrophic event in anyone’s family, again regardless of their professions.
Professions are never embarked upon with the prospect of declines of compensation, termination of benefits, and interference with their QOL. It’s a shame that pilots have been caught up in this whirlpool.
There is no union out there that’s going to fix that for many years to come.
As individuals we are in command of our own glory days… not the airlines, nor any other employer.
I have recommended, to up and coming aviators, even during the so called glory days to have a profession to fall back on in such cases as these.
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