SWA looking to buy unnamed domestic carrier
04-15-2009, 05:11 PM
#51
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Somebody post the language in the TA.
That's not super-secret, black helicopter level information, right?
Should be fairly easy to figure out (or at least narrow the list) if it is as specific as the SWA guys say it is.
That's not super-secret, black helicopter level information, right?
Should be fairly easy to figure out (or at least narrow the list) if it is as specific as the SWA guys say it is.
04-15-2009, 08:00 PM
#53
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Yes, it started as a codeshare but in March became more. Actually SWA now owns the ATA certificate thanks to this recent BK court transaction. That's how they got those juicy LGA slots. The ATA employees didn't come with the deal because the Company (ATA) shut down ops, keeping minimal employees only to keep the certificate alive.
04-15-2009, 08:10 PM
#54
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Either that or they just want something to really bargain with if you vote it down. Say you vote it down because of this clause. Then they come back with the same contract without the clause and it will easily pass. If the clause wouldn't have been in the first TA, you would be questioning something else like the international code share language. The question is how does the TA look without this clause? If it's crappy, then this is what they are up to. You'll vote this one down then be very happy with a crappy TA that includes the international codeshare language because it doesn't have the acquision clause that the company never really wanted in the first place.
04-16-2009, 05:46 AM
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I think that would have worked in the past, but the McCaskill-Bond Amendment now forces airlines to integrate employee groups through Allegheny-Mohawk. HR has a say in regards to new employees, but if SWA acquires another airline, their employees would become SWA employees. The days of staple and re-interview are gone.
04-16-2009, 05:55 AM
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Actually, you are mistaken. This law is for all employees, union or not. There is a provision in it for union employees, if both groups are union, to follow any union merger policies. This is what DAL/NWA did. Since both were ALPA, they applied ALPA merger policy.
04-16-2009, 06:11 AM
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SWAPA and Trans Star ALPA MEC had a seniority integration agreement for their 200 or so pilots in writing. MEC rejected the offer (no vote by the pilot group) and the next week Herb shut down Transtar.
SWA then leased the planes to CAL for 10 years before selling them. Out of the 200 or so pilots at Trans Star only 2 that I know of eventually made it to SWA. Instead of starting at the bottom of the seniority list the integration offer in hindsight would have been better. The ALPA MEC made a decision that expected to improve things.
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04-16-2009, 06:32 AM
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Didn't SWA buy Morris Air with all their MD-80's. I could see them buying a carrier with a different aircraft type and getting rid of them all. In addition, it is Possibly time for SWA to diversify into a second type anyway. If a systemic mechanical problem were to ground the entire 737 fleet SWA would be in big trouble.
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