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Old 03-24-2009, 05:32 PM
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And your point is that you or the government can decide what the individual really "needs". Is that your point? Just curious, how do you see that working. I would like to hear your plan for everyone or is it just "trust us"
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The government/congress makes those decisions all the time.

The Second Amendment that many base their argument on in here was passed by the, ahh, government.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:42 PM
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My point was , ewrbasedpilot seems to feel that having a collection of more than one firearm is excessive. That can be said about anything in life and I don't agree with him. Personally don't agree with gun controll and have a gun collection myself. Some are for protection, some are for hunting and some are for just because I wanted them.

I guess I don't see where I brought the government in to the discussion.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:44 PM
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Everyone here agrees with responsible firearm ownership. Among gun owners it is my guess that the majority would agree on the current restriction on automatic weapons for example. This is reasonable. It is not reasonable to ban a weapon because of its "look".

A "repeater" AK-47 type weapon can indeed be modified with an appropriate kit. This is highly illegal. It is also highly illegal to buy a fully auto AK-47 as it should be. But if someone wants an automatic weapon they will get one and they will break the law doing so. Banning a "repeating" AK-47 ( functionally just the same as a "repeating" deer rifle ) will not prevent this from happening. It only infringes upon law-abiding citizens and the founders did not intend this right to be infringed upon.

If you are interested, do some research on why Thomas Jefferson valued the second amendment and why it ranks number 2 only behind the right to free speech.

By the way, I do not own a firearm, but I understand the reason behind the amendment and how vital it is that we retain that right and when frivolous gun laws are posited we all need to take note and be concerned.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ce650
My point was , ewrbasedpilot seems to feel that having a collection of more than one firearm is excessive. That can be said about anything in life and I don't agree with him. Personally don't agree with gun controll and have a gun collection myself. Some are for protection, some are for hunting and some are for just because I wanted them.

I guess I don't see where I brought the government in to the discussion.

Now I see get your point, the government part came from gun control is always about government control. At least thats the way I see it, especially after a few Stella's
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:58 PM
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Roger that!
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:08 PM
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I love guns. They are fun. What's wrong with that? Why limit me, a proud gun carrying American, when I've never committed a crime in my life using one? Do you think the guys committing the crimes with them are taking the time to fill out a background check?
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I love guns. They are fun. What's wrong with that? Why limit me, a proud gun carrying American, when I've never committed a crime in my life using one? Do you think the guys committing the crimes with them are taking the time to fill out a background check?
I don't know. Why punish me for being a responsible citizen who pays my debts on time? I didn't create this stupid banking mess, housing mess, or that dang AIG mess. But you, I, & a lot of other responsible people are paying for that everyday. Not only do I have to pay for my families health care, I have to pay for the healthcare of illegal immigrants & bums who can't be turned away from an emergency room, or a jobless person who doesn't know how to use birth control.

TD, it seems like the more responsible we are, the more we get punished.
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:43 PM
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I dont understand why someone needs a AK-47 type weapon...
...The main problem I have with these type of weapons is the amount of destruction they can bring in a very short period of time.
Actually, an AK-47 will allow one to defend himself from a large amount of people in a very short period of time. Or a few people at close range if he is a bad shot. Or a horde of zombies if he is a good shot and can reload on the run.

One of the good things about an AK or tricked-out Bushmaster is the impression it gives an intruder. Brandish one at the top of the stairs and watch the badguys scatter without firing a shot. But for this purpose the sound of a shotgun being racked in the dark is the best recipe for putting a wet spot on a burgler's crotch.

A gun is just a tool, like a hammer, or a chainsaw, or an alligator.
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Originally Posted by ce650
how many guns do you REALLY need and does it need to be an uzi?. well lets see.
How many drinks do you REALLY need to take the edge off?
How many clubs do you REALLY need in your bag and do they need to be callawys?
How many TV sets do you REALLY need and do they need to be 50 in.?
How many cars do you REALLY need and do they need to be SUV's
How many motorcycles do you REALLY need and do they need to be harleys?
I'm not making an attack on you personally , just trying to make a point.
What I own is REALLY none of your business. Welcome to America. The 2nd amendment has NOTHING to with hunting. The 2nd amendment is the one amendment that guaranties the rest of them.

But what in the heck does this have to do with the FFDO program?

By the way you folks who are spouting off about "automatic" weapons being used in crimes need a serious lesson in terminology. "Automatic" weapons require a Class three licensed dealer to be transferred and to be legally obtained require a tax stamp and some other serious background and criminal history checks. If a legally purchased "automatic" weapon has ever been used in a crime it was a very rare incident indeed. I know "automatic" sounds more dramatic and is the favored word of holophobes in the anti gun crowd but using it to describe semi automatic weapons simply makes you sound ignorant and indoctrinated.
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The 2nd amendment is the one amendment that guaranties the rest of them.

How so? And, what is a holophobe? One who is afraid of holes?
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