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Old 03-16-2009, 09:44 PM
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When will the callsign change take place?
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Jumpseat, the operator should have priority. Nonrev definitely not. Buddies should always go below everyone.
OK, I can live with that, how about wholly owneds compared to "other contracted lift"? Should that be an in between priority or treated all the same (DOH)?
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When will the callsign change take place?
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After SOC (single operating certificate). Then, we will own the world!
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwartz
Ask a Comair employee. From what I hear there will be no changes. DAL and it's affiliates travel by DOH. Non-affiliates also use DOH, but at a lower priority on DAL or wholly owned metal. On non wholly owned metal, the natives from that carrier go first, followed by DAL or affiliates. Can a Comair employee confirm this?
Delta and Comair travel on eachother using S3 and DOH. Non-wholly owned travel as S3C FNWA as S3D Buddies as S4. When on a non-wholly owned Comair and Delta travel as S3C. So a 2 year Comair FO can bump a 1 year Delta FO off of a Comair or Delta flight.
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But NW employees get First Class if open on Delta flights, while Delta employees sit in coach even if First is open on a NW flight. Typical NW. Abuse the employees whenever possible.
Actually since DAL is running us...I guess that would be DAL abusing employees!
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After SOC (single operating certificate). Then, we will own the world!
Yes, but Southwest will still push in front of us (without clearance in some cases). I keep looking for their death star...........use the force young buzz
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:16 AM
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I saw the "DAL" 747 in Detroit the other day. I had to stop and take a picture of it. Such a pretty airplane, but I thought the word "DELTA" was a bit small for that airplane! haha

One thing I did notice was that all the NW branding on the jetways was already displaying Delta. I park at the new concourse, but that's what it looked like to me from the distance. They are doing this quick!!!
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
If you are an employee of someone who is contracted to fly routes for that airline, then you should have a lower pass class then someone who is actually employed by that airline. You don't work for that airline.
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Even if that person is flying on one of your own airplanes?
Yes, in the cabin. In this case, "Delta Airlines" has contracted with "Mesaba Airlines" to provide feed to "Delta Airlines". Delta has purchased the capacity of the aircraft (all of the seats in the cabin, as well as all the cargo bin space) in the service of operating "Delta Airlines" for their passengers, "Delta Airlines" passengers, not "Mesaba Airlines" passengers. Delta sells the tickets to the passengers, checks the bags, and uses the resources of "Delta" to get the passenger from point A to B. If Mesaba does the task well, who gets the praise - Delta. Delta also takes the fall when a complaint is filed. If Mesaba was just codesharing with Delta, then that's a different story - but that's not the way it is set up. Delta does all the logistics, and Mesaba just provides the lift.

That's why mainline non-rev's get on the aircraft first in the industry, no matter their seniority (usually, there's always the exception). The rights to the cabin seats are 'owned' by the mainline carrier, and are thus subject to mainline's non-rev policy, which, of course, treats their own employees with a higher priority than those employees who work for a contractor (WO'd are a mix of the two, an owned contractor). The crew seats (jumpseat, extra FA jumpseats, etc) are not part of the capacity purchase, and are subject to the rules of the operator of the flight, hence mainline will not get priority unless they are operating the flight.

The Delta/Northwest thing with flight #'s - someone sitting behind a desk probably ginned it up on a napkin. There's no rhyme or reason to it, or so it seems.

Nobody likes to get bumped off an airplane, so there's always a logic why they should have got on before the passenger that bumped them.
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