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Old 06-27-2011, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
I'd be happy to see them here, in fact, I'd hit it ... just pointing out the similarities with another nutball project born in 1986, Lindsey Lohan.

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(1) Both started out cute, but got stretched
(2) Both smoke
(3) Both make noise when they really should be quiet
(4) Both have legal restrictions which limit how high they are supposed to get
(5) Neither does math very quickly
(6) Both are unpredictable when you take them out in public & neither follows commands well
(7) Both get droopy when not powered up
(8) Both leak inappropriately
(9) Both show up in sequels
(10) Both drink waaay too much
Bonus (11) When either tries to stop, they get the shakes
Bonus 2 (12) Both are frequently driven by people on probation
Bonus 3 (13) The MD88 makes a lot of SkyMiles, Lindsey makes lots of Marlboro miles
Bonus 4 (14) Both do a pretty good job, but getting there involves too much drama


Dude, you are one creative and funny...well, Dude.

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Old 06-27-2011, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
I'd be happy to see them here, in fact, I'd hit it ... just pointing out the similarities with another nutball project born in 1986, Lindsey Lohan.

Latest and Greatest
Late Show
TOP TEN
(1) Both started out cute, but got stretched
(2) Both smoke
(3) Both make noise when they really should be quiet
(4) Both have legal restrictions which limit how high they are supposed to get
(5) Neither does math very quickly
(6) Both are unpredictable when you take them out in public & neither follows commands well
(7) Both get droopy when not powered up
(8) Both leak inappropriately
(9) Both show up in sequels
(10) Both drink waaay too much
Bonus (11) When either tries to stop, they get the shakes
Bonus 2 (12) Both are frequently driven by people on probation
Bonus 3 (13) The MD88 makes a lot of SkyMiles, Lindsey makes lots of Marlboro miles
Bonus 4 (14) Both do a pretty good job, but getting there involves too much drama

I'd really like to fly it, but I'm not sure I'm a good enough stick.
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Hoping to get anything used on the cheap is our future here at Delta. Bar was absolutely correct in his analysis. New Boeings or Airbuses are out of the question now in any meaningful quantity. That decision is done.

It's clear to me that RA has decided that paying down debt really is his main goal. To that end, we will be flying really old airplanes for quite a long time. Our 777's and A330's are going to be the newest we see for a while. Hope the gamble works out for us, because this is now our course.

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Now Carl,

Don't forget about the 787's that will be coming soon...... Right around the corner in 2020.
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RCD73
The spray on flight suits and the turtle necks are a little creepy. Followed up with synchronised hand shaking .....

The flying is great. I'd leave the rest out unless you want to freak out anybody born after 1975
They have to practice the hand shaking and walking out to the planes as well. You didn't see the video the BA pilot saluting with his left hand while two others next to him saluted with their right? Kind of funny.
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Hoping to get anything used on the cheap is our future here at Delta. Bar was absolutely correct in his analysis. New Boeings or Airbuses are out of the question now in any meaningful quantity. That decision is done.

It's clear to me that RA has decided that paying down debt really is his main goal. To that end, we will be flying really old airplanes for quite a long time. Our 777's and A330's are going to be the newest we see for a while. Hope the gamble works out for us, because this is now our course.

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Carl, I have a friend who works for Boeing in their marketing division. We can get any Boeings we want on 24 months notice. Some in even less time. We still have a big bunch of 777 delivery positions. Many of the current positions customers have will never be realized and come available. They restructure delivery slots all the time for better customers. In fact most of the contracts allow Boeing to slide the deliver time frame. Want to make 100 737's available in 18 months. Simply slide other deliveries 2 months and you create a huge surplus.
This exact same discussion went around in the late nineties when pilots were saying we were locked out of the market because Boeing and Airbus were sold out. Next thing you know we were getting all kinds of different aircraft brand new. We will get what we want when we want. When it comes to aircraft purchase Delta is a 800 lb gorilla. Airbus, Boeing and others are making huge efforts as we speak to be the choice of Delta in its recent request for bids for deliveries starting in 2013. They are not sitting home saying were sold out can't help you!
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
I'd be happy to see them here, in fact, I'd hit it ... just pointing out the similarities with another nutball project born in 1986, Lindsey Lohan.

Latest and Greatest
Late Show
TOP TEN
(1) Both started out cute, but got stretched
(2) Both smoke
(3) Both make noise when they really should be quiet
(4) Both have legal restrictions which limit how high they are supposed to get
(5) Neither does math very quickly
(6) Both are unpredictable when you take them out in public & neither follows commands well
(7) Both get droopy when not powered up
(8) Both leak inappropriately
(9) Both show up in sequels
(10) Both drink waaay too much
Bonus (11) When either tries to stop, they get the shakes
Bonus 2 (12) Both are frequently driven by people on probation
Bonus 3 (13) The MD88 makes a lot of SkyMiles, Lindsey makes lots of Marlboro miles
Bonus 4 (14) Both do a pretty good job, but getting there involves too much drama

This is hilarious!
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:05 AM
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Hey all.

Just breez'in through. If we want new boeings, we can get them-and quickly.

My bet is that we are seriously looking at 1, maybe 2 airlines that have 100 seaters already in service. One of them doesn't have enough of them, so a secondary transaction would have to accompany THAT transaction. The other would get us all the 100 seaters we need, in addition to a large addition to our airbus fleet AND a stranglehold on the NY market. The downside to the latter transaction is that I believe that nobody is really happy with that particular aircraft.

I wouldn't rule out singlehandedly saving the c-series either

It will all come down to the best deal, and whether other players force our hand, IMO.
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Hoping to get anything used on the cheap is our future here at Delta. Bar was absolutely correct in his analysis. New Boeings or Airbuses are out of the question now in any meaningful quantity. That decision is done.

It's clear to me that RA has decided that paying down debt really is his main goal. To that end, we will be flying really old airplanes for quite a long time. Our 777's and A330's are going to be the newest we see for a while. Hope the gamble works out for us, because this is now our course.

Carl
This is what Delta is telling their shareholders, you know the ones that own the company. Delta is generating excellent cash flow, in the last few years that cash flow has been used and will be used to:

Finance the merger integration >> Pay down the debt >> Finance fleet renewal

They are very open about this and have not wavered. We are halfway through the pay down debt cycle and will move to fleet renewal in a few years. Look at the last investors webcast slides and it says it right there. They have this RFP out for 100 orders + 100 options + more and it is actively being bid on by every manufacturer that can spell airplane. A bid that says deliveries will be in 10 years will not win.

Delta will continue to purchase used MD-90's as fast as they can find them, also not a surprise to anyone that pays any attention to what management says. This is really not rocket science here, you don't need to invent stuff to figure out what is going on. Delta has for the last 5 years been very open with the investment community and has been dogged about delivering on their promises.

The reason the union is educating pilots about financial information and negotiating procedures is because they want pilots to be able find this data and process it on their own. They should not have to rely on internet gossip and made up rumors based on data mined from press reports, that are often quite inaccurate. It seems the only people that are upset by this education campaign are the internet prognosticators.

Delta just put out another press release about our 2nd quarter results. You can find it here. Investor Relations - SEC Filings

Every Delta pilot now has the knowledge to read that press release and get a very good idea about the profit/loss for the 2nd quarter. I encourage pilots to read it from the source and don't rely on internet rumors for your data.
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:14 AM
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This is the first mention of "up to 400 jets."

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
The reason the union is educating pilots about financial information and negotiating procedures is because they want pilots to be able find this data and process it on their own. They should not have to rely on internet gossip and made up rumors based on data mined from press reports, that are often quite inaccurate. It seems the only people that are upset by this education campaign are the internet prognosticators.

Delta just put out another press release about our 2nd quarter results. You can find it here. Investor Relations - SEC Filings

Every Delta pilot now has the knowledge to read that press release and get a very good idea about the profit/loss for the 2nd quarter. I encourage pilots to read it from the source and don't rely on internet rumors for your data.
Alpha,

This humble prognosticator is pleased to read the Delta MEC's communications of late and think they do an excellent job. I also enjoy reading the "phantom speaks." Obviously this board takes things a bit further.

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Old 06-27-2011, 06:23 AM
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Thumbs up Delta expects quarterly profit

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Delta Air Lines said Monday it expects to have a "solidly profitable" second quarter as higher revenues have largely offset a jump in fuel prices. Passenger revenue per available seat mile is forecast to climb 10% in the current period, the Atlanta-based airline said. Fuel during the period was up by 91 cents from a year ago to $3.23 a gallon, though that's expected to decline in the third quarter to $3.03 a gallon. To tame its non-fuel costs and bring them down to 2010 levels, Delta said it plans to reduce its post-Labor Day seat capacity by 4% by retiring older aircraft it will no longer have to service and reduce its workforce. Delta expects to end the second quarter with $5.6 billion in unrestricted liquidity.
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