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Old 02-11-2009, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by all4114all
The impotent protection attempt was guided and provided by The Airline Pilots Association aka ALPA.

"I will stand by the Midwest Airline Pilots, even if it requires me to change my zip code to Milwaukee, Wisconsin"

John Prater

ALPA president during a rally of Midwest Pilots.

What a joke! ALPA national contracts and John Praters words are both worthless.

I hope everyone learned something about scope language.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:22 PM
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There is just soooooo much great career advice on this thread, we can't allow it to die...
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:57 AM
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Delta answers Airtrans growth plan in Milwaukee...


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The Delta-Midwest code share will make connections easier for Midwest passengers who fly through Minneapolis, said Greg Aretakis, Midwest vice president of planning and revenue management.
A passenger who flies Midwest to Minneapolis arrives at that airport's Humphrey terminal. The passenger must then take a light rail shuttle to the airport's main Lindbergh terminal to catch a connecting Northwest flight.
Under the new arrangement with Delta, Midwest is moving its Minneapolis operations to the Lindbergh terminal, where Delta is taking over the Northwest gates, Aretakis said.
"You'll be able to get on Midwest, fly to Mitchell, walk down four gates and catch a flight (on Delta/Northwest)," Aretakis said. The move to the Lindbergh terminal will occur within two months, he said.
Much of the code share for Midwest passengers will likely be on flights that go through Atlanta to connect on Delta flights to Florida and other destinations in the Southeast and on Delta flights through its Salt Lake City hub to West-Coast destinations, he said.
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The code share creates more scheduling and connection choices for passengers, Aretakis said, while creating opportunities for Midwest to earn additional revenue.
For Delta, the code-share and frequent-flier partnerships are important because of the large number of Milwaukee-area passengers who fly on Northwest, Reichart said.
The Milwaukee area has the fourth-largest concentration of Northwest frequent fliers in the world, after Minneapolis, Detroit and Memphis, Reichart said. Extending the Midwest-Northwest partnerships to include Delta is a way for Delta to make those Northwest customers happy, he said.
"Expanding our alliance relationships to include Midwest Airlines is another customer benefit created by Delta's merger with Northwest Airlines," said Richard Anderson, Delta's chief executive officer, in a statement.
Delta, through its acquisition of Northwest, has a 47% non-management stake in Midwest. Northwest joined majority owner Fort Worth, Texas-based TPG Capital to purchase Midwest in a deal that closed in January 2008.
The new frequent-flier and code-share partnerships with Delta also will boost Midwest's credibility, Reichart said
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Old 03-08-2009, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 320ToBearz
I realize you want to stop your career where you are with your contract with limited retirement, benefits, etc. but sapping off the backs of airlines with better ones isn't benefitting anyone but management. Dying airline or no dying airline.
Blaming others for your own managers mistakes is not going to save you. You had as much to say about your own management's decisions as the pilots you are accusing. Stop blaming the pilots and put it where it belongs.
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Old 03-14-2009, 05:27 PM
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So now the last nine Midwest 717s will be going away soon and the remaining mainline pilots will be history. Any insight/rumors into what's next for Midwest besides more outsourcing to operationally inferior E170s trying to wear "big boy" pants and having their as*es handed to them by Air Tran? The incompetence of their management continues to be breathtaking.
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So now the last nine Midwest 717s will be going away soon and the remaining mainline pilots will be history. Any insight/rumors into what's next for Midwest besides more outsourcing to operationally inferior E170s trying to wear "big boy" pants and having their as*es handed to them by Air Tran? The incompetence of their management continues to be breathtaking.

True... Midwest is dead. But I think Delta will make Milwaukee very expense for AirTran.
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Originally Posted by hiredgun
So now the last nine Midwest 717s will be going away soon and the remaining mainline pilots will be history. Any insight/rumors into what's next for Midwest besides more outsourcing to operationally inferior E170s trying to wear "big boy" pants and having their as*es handed to them by Air Tran? The incompetence of their management continues to be breathtaking.

Im sorry how is the E170 inferior? While its true we cant carry as much cargo as midwest does on some routes we also burn alot less gas (MONEY) with are 75% full airplanes than they do with their 50% full 717's.
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Old 03-14-2009, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hiredgun
So now the last nine Midwest 717s will be going away soon and the remaining mainline pilots will be history. Any insight/rumors into what's next for Midwest besides more outsourcing to operationally inferior E170s trying to wear "big boy" pants and having their as*es handed to them by Air Tran? The incompetence of their management continues to be breathtaking.
Maybe I missed it, did they announce the 717's going away or the fact that the 170's were inferior and trying to wear, "Big Boy Pants" what are you 10?

The first part was a real question, did midwest announce the 717's going away or is this you're reading into the mexican thing?
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
Maybe I missed it, did they announce the 717's going away or the fact that the 170's were inferior and trying to wear, "Big Boy Pants" what are you 10?

The first part was a real question, did midwest announce the 717's going away or is this you're reading into the mexican thing?
No I'm not 10, it was a little humor used to illustrate the 170 isn't cutting it out of MKE. Next time I'll put an LOL or a in a punch line. I got it from two Midwest capt buds of mine and one confirmed when he was in Seattle that Boeing is in fact taking back the remaining nine jets. Also heard it from a Delta fleet capt while he was explaining Mexicana beating Delta to the punch. And yes, the 170 is operationally inferior to the 717 and can't go non-stop out of Milwaukee to nearly as many cities. Doesn't matter if it being smaller makes it "more full" than the 717 (like someone else said in the thread), it can't do the job and Air Tran is stealing Midwest's lunch as a result. It's a nifty, Gucci jet but it's contributing to killing Midwest's business and an Air Tran seat non-stop is a better product on a more comfortable airplane.
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Originally Posted by MD80
WHAT ABOUT THEM? ONE DAY YOU HAVE A JOB THE NEXT YOU DON'T, ITS BUSINESS. IN BUSINESS YOU DO NOT GET WHAT YOU DESERVE, YOU GET WHAT YOU NEGOTIATE ON.

You're right. Midwest pilots paid millions to ALPA national to protect their jobs and the negotiated scope language was ruled worthless.[/quote]

They schould get their money back due to worthless scope language!
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